M1A or AR10
Today is pick up day. Paid for the m1A but considering getting the AR. Problem is I'm in Cali. Any suggestions?
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If I could get the AR-10, in your state, that is what I would have.
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AR-10 needs the "bullet button" to be legal in Ca. M1A needs no such tool, but both are subject to 10 round limit in magazine capacity. AR-10 is more easily changed configuration/caliber wise with a new upper on an existing lower, and optics mounting is a snap on a flat-top. M1A pretty much one caliber only, and needs a mounting set up unless the SOCOM style rails are on it.
I like the M1A for the look and the history, and if I had an extra 1,700 in my pocket I'd buy one...but the AR-10 is more versatile (excepting the mag-lock issue in Ca.).
Honestly, you can't go wrong with either one!0 -
The Garand and AR designs each have virtues. You would need to compare how those virtues and shortcomings fit into what your wants and needs are before a valid answer can be reached. 0 -
Thanks all!! I was leaning toward the M1A due to california issues but the AR is more versitile. Thanks again 0 -
LWRC REPR
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=303712496
even better get one with the Cerokote finish.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=3046726580 -
I'd get the AR-10. The Lewis Machine & Tool one has been calling me. Being in California (too) I can get M1A any ol' time. But I figure "black rifle" might get banned again or ban the bullet button. 0 -
For the price of the LWRC REPR, I would get a GA Precision GAP-10. They are made on POF upper and lower's, converted to a direct gas system from the piston. One other thing, they can be made to order, without the flash hider or compensator, and with the PRS stock. I live in NY, and we have the AWB still in effect.
Mine is extremely reliable, and will compete against most bolt guns for accuracy, if one knows what they are doing. It is truly a sub 1/2MOA rifle. The folks out at GA Precision, have really done their homework with this rifle, as they are true competitive shooter's, and compete in a lot of sniper competitions. I am sure the others do too, but look at the results of those competitions.
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If both were lying on a table for my choice, I'd pick the M1A simply for aesthetics. I carried an M14 and was impressed by it's performance. I've been thinking I should sell 2 or 3 AR's and get an M1A before I'm too old to shoot it.
For someone not having those sentimental ties, the AR10 would probably be a better choice at this time.0 -
quote:converted to a direct gas system from the piston
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quote:Originally posted by Ray B
quote:converted to a direct gas system from the piston
Why would someone prefer the direct gas system to the piston system?
Conversly, to what folks are led to believe, the direct gas system that the AR was originally designed around, is more reliable, more accurate, and has less parts, and NO bolt tilt issues. The AR platform was NOT designed to be an AK platform. It had issues early on, and now hat those issues are worked out, it is just as reliable as the AK...except for the crtridge(5.56mmNATO) stopping power. The only disadvantage of the AR is the heat build up, under long strings of sustained fire. That is no issue to most average shooter's.
Yes, it does get dirty in the upper reciever, but so does the AK, in the gas tube. Neither are SELF cleaning either...that is a total fallacy. They BOTH need to be cleaned, as they do not clean themselves.
I know for a fact, using Hornady 168 grain match loads, that my GAP-10, is sub 1/2MOA out to 600 yards, and will print 5-6" groups at 800(that is as far as I have put it to the test). Show me a piston gun that will do that.
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