Wartime (or right after) Model 70 (Part 2)
Anybody got any further ideas?
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yooper
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yooper
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Yooper,
I beleave that is a Supreme Stock, correct for the year of manufacture. Most model 70 Supremes I've seen from that era have an engraved floor plate, so I can't be 100% sure.
Better and closer pictures would be a great help. How much is the seller asking?
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He means deluxe not supreme. The front sight should be a full brass blade and not just a brass bead on the front, the floor plate is also from a standard grade and should read -Deluxe Grade-
It appears to be a deluxe stock on a field grade model 70. All of the screw heads are marred and some screws are missing.
That being said, deluxe grade stocks are worth big bucks.
Pull the stock off and see if there are signs of someone doing some extra in letting, maybe drilling out original holes to get the new stock to fit correctly.0 -
Don't you guys mean Super Grade? I've never heard the terms "deluxe" or "supreme" for pre-64 model 70's. In Roger Rules' book I find no reference to a supreme grade and the deluxe term is applied to models from 1965 and later.
The underside of the barrel may be marked "SUPER", but that was not always done. Also, the front sight was mentioned in your previous post: During the era you mentioned, either a Redfield (which is almost rectangular in profile) or a Winchester (kind of tent shaped in profile) was used. On either sight, the top or "bead" portion was gold colored for its entire length, not just gold faced.
Those sling swivels are not right though. The Super Grades had rather large detachable swivels. While the base on yours looks right, solid loops have been forced into the base.
It seems there is no sure way to tell if your rifle is a Super Grade or a standard rifle with a Super Grade stock. That stock is certainly from a Super Grade. If the floor plate was marked Super Grade you could be more confident but, of course, that could be changed, too. I only have one Super Grade (1949 per the serial #) in my collection and it was much modified when I got it (or I would not have been able to afford it). I don't recall if the barrel has any special marking on the underside and don't wish to take it apart again now. If it is priced near a shooter grade standard model, I'd take it home. If the price is well up in the four figures, I'd pass. At a gun show recently, I asked about a .270 Super Grade on the table and the owner didn't bat an eye when he said "$5,000".0 -
Super Grade and is so stamped on the floor plate and sometimes on the underside og the barrel 0 -
Serial #73623 was made late 1947. 0 -
I believe this rifle really smacks of being a 1947 transition Standard rifle with a super grade stock. With legit Super Grade rifles commanding roughly double the price of their Standard Rifle counterparts, their has been a lot of "parting" going on for years. A Super Grade stock, even purchased for $800, will double the price of a $1200 Standard Rifle. (The standard stock can be sold for $400 thus increasing the net gain further.) Floor plates of the genuine article are stamped " -SUPER GRADE- ". They sell for several hundred dollars by themselves and are often skipped in the replicating process. The front sight blade is another similar issue. (These numbers are just mathematical examples, not actual value estimates.) As was mentioned, this rifle looks as though it has been disassembled many times. Might shoot great and have a nice look, but as a collection piece, I would be very suspicious. 0 -
Sorry, I'm Gettin my 1894's and M70's confused. Of course it's super grade. 0
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