Winchester factory letter question

austinsguns

July 25, 2012 09:47

How is it shipped from the warehouse before received in the warehouse? http://www.coltforum.com/forums/attachments/want-sell/564066d1527900885-wts-winchester-model-1894-38-55-caliber-circa-1903-img_2313.jpg

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  austinsguns

  July 25, 2012 09:47

  I have an early Winchester 1906 with a 860 serial number. It has a later replacement s,l,lr barrel and carrier. However the receiver has Winchester factory proof marks on it Which would not have been original to the rifle when it was made in 1906. So I am speculating that the rifle was originally short only, then later shipped back to winchester and converted to s,l,lr. Where they then stamped proof marks on the barrel and receiver. Note that this receiver is original to the rifle w/matching numbers.
  
  My question is, If this was a factory modification will a letter from the museum reflect this?
  
  
  

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  austinsguns

  July 25, 2012 10:41

  It also has these markings below on the receiver. What do they mean?
  

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  Bert H.

  July 25, 2012 11:43

  If it was sent back to Winchester for the new barrel, it should have an "R & R" entry in the Remarks section of the ledger page. The "R & R" entry will include a date and an order number at a minimum. If there is no "R & R" entry, then it will be very difficult to prove that it was a factory alteration.
  
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  tsr1965

  July 25, 2012 12:01

  That proof mark on your reciever, could have been oririginal. That is about the time, or shortly before they started proof stamping.
  
  To proof stamp, the barrel must be proof tested. Which means it must be attatched to a reciever. I think possibly, your reciever was proof stamped, at the same time when te s,l,lr barrel wasinstalld,if done at te factory.
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  austinsguns

  July 25, 2012 12:04

  quote:Originally posted by tsr1965
  That proof mark on your reciever, could have been oririginal. That is about the time, or shortly before they started proof stamping.
  
  To proof stamp, the barrel must be proof tested. Which means it must be attatched to a reciever. I think possibly, your reciever was proof stamped, at the same time when te s,l,lr barrel wasinstalld,if done at te factory.
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  My 17,548 and 90,113 1906's do not have proof marks on them.

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  Bert H.

  July 25, 2012 12:13

  Winchester did not begin proof marking the .22 caliber rifles until 1908.

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  CJS10

  July 26, 2012 03:22

  Snap, You are correct, it was sent back to Winchester, re-barreled and then proofed at that time. The factory letter will likely Not say anything about the re-barrel. The letter is a report on Winchester's shipping room document, not a history of the gun. Sure some early Winchester high end guns do have "returned to the factory on a certain later date for repair" notations. Yours may have an entry like that to, but unlikely on a common gun. None the less, the work on your gun was factory.

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  austinsguns

  July 26, 2012 05:55

  So, I have probably the earliest serial Model 1906 factory chambered in s,l,lr? Very neat.

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