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Remington Rand 1911, matching?

HooverTactical
The guy who inspected the frame (serial 1448804) also did Ithaca's

how can i tell if it's right?

what do you think it's worth?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=297607301

EDIT 1: thanks, hoping for 1100? started at say 500 NR?

Edit 3: rufe-snow Thank you for the help, I am going to be selling this one, I was hoping we got lucky but I think we can break even. I need to bone up on this stuff, so many tiny variations. givette; that sounds fine i was worried it was nearly worthless if it was a mongrol: nmyers holy cow, how is he even doing that? my photos look that sharp but when I upload them gb compresses them

thanks for the help, listed, hope the description is accurate

edit 4: within 4 hours of listing it a former marine emailed me and asked me what i wanted, i said i thought it might go to 1300 or so, he pointed out a few ended auctions for similar guns for 1000 and offered me $1150, i put in a buy it now at that price and he called and we settled up today, will be going out on the next UPS shipment

i like letting auctions run (especially on colts they get a lot of hits) but the buyer was so straight with me i thought we all got a good deal

he's happy, im happy, the gun is gone in 4 hours... the power of gunbroker...
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  • rufe-snow
    According to my book serial numbers 1,441,431 to 1,471,430 were made by Ithaca in 1943.

    There are quite a number books available with the 2nd World War production, 1911A1 serial numbers.


    EDIT #1, It seems to be in good shape, per the photos in the add. Unfortunately because of the mismatched serial number, more of a shooter then a top notch collectors piece, IMHO.


    EDIT #2, Personally I wouldn't bid on it at all, unless I wanted it as a W W II era, shooter grade 1911A1.

    If you do intend to bid on it wait until the the last hour of the auction, to see how things shake out with other bidders. You might be able to buy it at realistic shooter grade price, that you could live with. Provided there aren't unknowledgeable folks or shill bidders driving up the price on it.


    EDIT #3, You did good, congratulations! My thoughts are that he either has a Ithaca slide, or access to one in comparable condition to the frame. This might explain his haste in cutting a deal with you. A righteous 1943 made Ithaca 1911A1 would have substantially more collector value, then a mongrel parts gun, and he will have a Remington Rand slide to boot.
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  • HooverTactical
    crud

    thank you, i will buy some reference books for this sort of thing

    would you still consider it a collecter's item?
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  • givette
    quote:Originally posted by HooverTactical
    crud

    thank you, i will buy some reference books for this sort of thing

    would you still consider it a collecter's item?

    Yes!!

    Now, and with that said, it's a starter pistol (from the collecting standpoint).

    I didn't view the auction, but if a beginner wants the gun in order to own a representation of WWII hardware, he'll go for it!

    The purist collectors, alas, will not touch it, as it would represent a step-down in their collection. However..

    The serious collector may very well buy it (for a shooter), and, of course, would only be willing to pay the price of a shooter.

    Best, Joe
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  • nmyers
    I think r-s does not understand that you are trying to sell the gun.

    But, he is correct, the books indicate that the frame is an Ithaca, making it a mixed parts mongrel. And, it really is not collectible. I still think it would sell in the $1,000-1,500 range with better photos.

    Take a look at this seller's auction:
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=285948228

    As with all his auctions, he does a great job with lighting & close-up photos that clearly show the markings & all parts of the gun. Also note that the barrel markings are shown, as well as a photo of the bore. It's difficult to photograph a bore, so, at the least, describe the bore.

    If I were selling it, I would start it at 500, with a 30 day return period. But, that's just me; you have to decide what strategy will work best for you.

    Neal

    EDIT: I'm glad it worked out for you. But, I will never bid on any of your auctions; you listed it for 7 days, I think that you should have let it run its course.
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  • HooverTactical
    Thank you rufe-snow for your help, I am new to the forum and having people who will help is everything.

    It's good to know there's a place where people who love guns and the 2nd amendment can help each other with our firearms and transactions.
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