What's gonna be your response...
To this 'active' effort to pass a UN Resolution aka "Smalls Arms Treaty..."
In a 'back-door' action of disarming American Citizens...?
Effectively making the 2nd Amendment, NULL AND VOID...
I know that my response isn't gonna be thought of as very PC amongst "some" family, close friends...
AND... MANY Neighbors... [:(!]
But... It IS what it IS...
Some of the comments I expect to hear are...:"But... Now, they're ONLY talking about requiring 'a license' to own one..."
"Yeah... but, you KNOW it's no longer 'LEGAL' to own one..."
"Well... YOU better watch out... 'They' are watching 'everyone' now..."
"If this is how you're gonna act... You 'DESERVE' to be "Locked Up" as the criminal you've become..."
"These 'things' don't mean anything... They're ONLY bits and pieces of metal, plastic, and wood...""Does anyone know what ever happened to Uncle Robert...?"
"He resisted the government and 'THEY' took him away I think..."
"NO... NO... He resisted ALRIGHT... They forcible TOOK his gun after they took care of him..."
"I sure wish he was still around with his guns..."
"He STILL be resisting those damn 'BLUE HATS'..."
"Yeah... It would be nice to be able to be FREE AGAIN."
Oh... and MY Comment... to the question at hand???Bring it ON guys!
It's TIME to RUMBLE!!!
What says you...?
In a 'back-door' action of disarming American Citizens...?
Effectively making the 2nd Amendment, NULL AND VOID...
I know that my response isn't gonna be thought of as very PC amongst "some" family, close friends...
AND... MANY Neighbors... [:(!]
But... It IS what it IS...
Some of the comments I expect to hear are...:"But... Now, they're ONLY talking about requiring 'a license' to own one..."
"Yeah... but, you KNOW it's no longer 'LEGAL' to own one..."
"Well... YOU better watch out... 'They' are watching 'everyone' now..."
"If this is how you're gonna act... You 'DESERVE' to be "Locked Up" as the criminal you've become..."
"These 'things' don't mean anything... They're ONLY bits and pieces of metal, plastic, and wood...""Does anyone know what ever happened to Uncle Robert...?"
"He resisted the government and 'THEY' took him away I think..."
"NO... NO... He resisted ALRIGHT... They forcible TOOK his gun after they took care of him..."
"I sure wish he was still around with his guns..."
"He STILL be resisting those damn 'BLUE HATS'..."
"Yeah... It would be nice to be able to be FREE AGAIN."
Oh... and MY Comment... to the question at hand???Bring it ON guys!
It's TIME to RUMBLE!!!
What says you...?
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Hell ya! what He said!!!
I am very sorry that my blood might stain the fine wood on my salad shooter but that is the way the cookie crumbles[;)]
quote:Originally posted by Horse Plains Drifter
quote:Originally posted by us55840
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You contact your congresscriminal all you want. I'll go take a dump or something worthwhile.0 -
quote:Originally posted by jev1969
The UN or any other agency will never be coming door to door to collect guns. There would be a Ruby Ridge every other block and they know it. They will be made illegal. Then one by one they will be collected when: Your neighbor drops a dime on you. Your estranged wife drops a dime on you. The electrician, AC repairman or plumber drops a dime on you. You shoot a burglar. Police come to the wrong house. You call the paramedics or Fire Department and they see your gun safe. You die and one of your kids turns them in because they are illegal etc. Thats how they plan on collecting them. No blaze of glory and them taking it from your cold dead fingers. Just a set of hand cuffs as you leave for work and then all your guns and ammo are on the six oclock news being described as "an aresal of assault weapons" belonging to a deranged individual. [V]
You nailed it!!![;)]
The progressives are very patient and that is why it is so important to get rid of Obama. The Appointment's to the SCOTUS made by the next Pres will make a BIG difference in how this plays out. [V]0 -
Micheal Bennett always sends my a nice letter thanking me for my concerns, protecting the rights of Coloradans is of his utmost concern. The letter(email) usually arrives in my inbox the same same day he s**ts on us with his vote.[xx(][:(!][xx(]
My response - a polite Molon Labe.0 -
This is why I have components and dies for everything I own. From worhtless .25 up to big bore rifles. Reloading is the way to go. 0 -
Any UN treaty that undermines and dismantles the 2nd Amendment disarming the law abiding citizens of this Republic would be Constitutionally illegal and an act of war against the Republic of the people.
This illegal act would no doubt start a guerrilla resistance by the people similar to the french resistance against the nazis or in this case the UN and any entity, agency or person(s) that allows or enforces it as well.
DHS Prepares for Civil Unrest as Obama Poised to Destroy 2nd Amendment
http://www.infowars.com/dhs-prepares-for-civil-unrest-as-obama-poised-to-destroy-2nd-amendment/
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I agree with everyone who posted. From the slow approach to changing the laws to make everything a felony or something similar. Our representitives do not represent the people anymore. They represent themselves. I do not trust ONE politician to the right thing. The constitution is something they read about. The oath of office is tradition, but nobody really believes it anymore. They get elected,make a ton of cash and retire on our dime. Then they go around the country making 50,000 a speech and write a book about how they suckered us all.
When they come, they will be like thieves in the night. Scary time we are in indeed.0 -
quote:Originally posted by barbwired
I will not comply. I believe a socialist Dictator in Germany said something to this affect. "This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future". [:(!]
If you're referring to the "quote" allegedly made by ol' Adolf, there's only one problem: He never said that.
It sounds nice, but it's some made-up crap from the tin-foil hat society.0 -
I'm too crippled to run, too old and grumpy to give a shxt, so I guess I'll die in place. 0 -
I'll give up my guns when they pry the pawn ticket from my cold dead fingers!
(Economy sucks, y'know?) [:p]0 -
When the shooting starts American's will open their eyes. Sad, but it will be to late then.
Hell I am to damn old to change and I ain't gonna even try so F them UN jerks! I gotta die of something.0 -
Retroxler58: I wanted to thank you for making my day with this post.
I work in a world of emasculated cajones so this was
a great read for me. I am a public school teacher and
have posted about my situation before. 20 years, masters degree in history with thesis, and yet demoted 3 years ago to the lowest toughest classes usually reserved for rookies. My crime? I was accused of being a conservative and I am the vice president of a 2nd Amendment political action committee. They read what I write. I am the only teacher among 3 high and 3 junior high socialIST studies departments who must turn in every single assignment, homework, quiz, test, and so forth to be examined for conservative bias. I am not allowed to say anything about anything unless approved by the principal first. My colleagues on the other "side" have carte blance. Again, thanks. Because "they" google my name to read everything I write/post, I have to be careful what I say here but, I'm not going quietly either. My suggestion would be along the lines of Ben Franklin's statement that we must hang together or we will hang separately. Organize, unite, don't go it alone.0 -
I will stand and do my part. To slow to run to fat to hide. 0 -
I went to a political office to get yard signs and raised the same question. The reply was starteling and and refreshing. She leaned forward and put her 70+ year old arms on her desk and told me "that means war". She said I am prepared. Gramma rocks 'round here!! 0 -
Contacting your congressmen may not necessarily be a waste of time:
A Response From Johnny Isakson
United States Senate, Georgia
Dear Mr. W******:
Thank you for contacting me regarding the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty. I appreciate your thoughts and the opportunity to respond.
As you are aware, the Obama administration and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton support the drafting of a U.N. Arms Trade Treaty that is designed to curb hostilities in areas of the world experiencing political instability. Supporters of this treaty believe that an international effort to reduce small arms will help achieve this goal. Under former President George W. Bush's administration, the United States was the only nation to oppose a 2006 resolution to create an international treaty on the sale of small arms and light weapons. In 2011, I joined 44 of my Senate colleagues in sending a letter to President Obama and Secretary Clinton stating my opposition to this treaty since I believe it violates our Second Amendment rights. Additionally, I am a cosponsor of S.2205, the Second Amendment Sovereignty Act of 2012 , which states U.S. sovereignty and the constitutionally protected freedoms of American gun owners must be upheld and cannot be undermined by the U.N . Arms Trade Treaty. The bill prohibits U.S. funds from being obligated or expended in attempts to use the voice, vote, and influence of the United States in negotiations for the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty to restrict the Second Amendment rights of U.S. citizens in any way.
While I believe it is important to reduce the availability of small arms to terrorist organizations and groups that undermine regional political instability, I would never support any international agreement that would undermine the Second Amendment rights of American citizens in any way. If the Senate considers ratification of a U.N. Arms Trade Treaty, I will seek to address these concerns. In the meantime, as a member of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, I will continue to explore ways to reduce international violence without making the United States party to any agreement that would undermine our own Constitution.
Thank you again for contacting me. Please visit my webpage at http://isakson.senate.gov/ for more information on the issues important to you and to sign up for my e-newsletter .
Sincerely,
Johnny Isakson
United States Senator
A Response From Senator Saxby Chambliss
United States Senate, Georgia
Dear Mr. W****** :
Thank you for contacting me regarding the United Nations Small Arms Treaty and S. 2205, the "Second Amendment Sovereignty Act of 2012." Your taking the time to contact me is appreciated.
On December 6, 2006, the United Nations General Assembly adopted Resolution 89, which was developed as a new international treaty for the global trade in conventional arms. The resolution, "towards an arms trade treaty; establishing common international standards for the import, export and transfer of conventional arms," was adopted without the support of the United States under the Bush Administration; however, the Obama Administration reversed this decision, and announced that the United States would support negotiations on the condition they were, "under the rule of consensus decision-making needed to ensure that all countries can be held to standards that will actually improve the global situation."
Recently, on July 27, 2012, United Nations member states announced that they had failed to reach an agreement on the treaty.
In response to this threat to Second Amendment rights, S.2205, of which I am a cosponsor, was introduced on March 19, 2012, and referred to the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations. If enacted, S. 2205 would prohibit the Administration from using the "voice, vote, and influence" of the United States during negotiations that could restrict the Second Amendment rights of U.S. citizens by prohibiting funds from being obligated or expended. Furthermore, on July 26, I joined 50 of my Senate colleagues in writing a letter to the President explicitly stating that I would vote against ratification. Should S. 2205 or other legislation concerning the UN Small Arms Treaty come before the full Senate, I will keep your thoughts in mind.
If you would like to receive timely email alerts regarding the latest congressional actions and my weekly e-newsletter, please sign up via my web site at: www.chambliss.senate.gov . Please let me know whenever I may be of assistance.
Sincerely,
Saxby Chambliss
United States Senator
From the Office of Congressman Lynn A. Westmoreland:
Dear Mr. W******,
Thank you for contacting me regarding the important issues of firearms and Second Amendment rights. I am a gun owner, and have consistently fought to protect the right to keep and bear arms.
When our Founding Fathers adopted the Bill of Rights, they specifically included a right for individuals to keep and bear arms. They wisely knew that if the people were armed, there would always be a built-in protection against criminal activity and tyranny.
While many call for more gun laws, we need to enforce the laws that are already on the books. The true solution to gun violence is not creating more laws, but rather in something Congress can't do-changing the basic values people cherish. The solution to violence lies in our homes, schools, and places of worship as people learn the value of the lives of others. We can all work toward addressing those basic attitudes.
I will continue to vote to protect gun owner rights. Most recently, I signed on as an original cosponsor to H.R. 3594, the Second Amendment Protection Act, introduced by Representative Joe Walsh (R-IL). This legislation would cut off all funding to the United Nations if the United States agrees to restrict or infringe upon the rights of American citizens to possess a firearm or ammunition. Currently this bill is pending before the House Foreign Affairs Committee.
I have also signed on as a cosponsor of H.R. 5846, the Second Amendment Sovereignty Act, introduced by Representative Ben Quayle (R-AZ) on May 18, 2012. This legislation expresses the sense of Congress that U.S. sovereignty and the freedoms of American gun owners must be upheld and not undermined by a United Nations Arms Trade Treaty. This bill is currently pending before the House Foreign Affairs Committee as well.
I wholeheartedly support Second Amendment rights and will not vote for anything that infringes upon those rights. In late July, the UN Conference responsible for completing the Arms Trade Treaty ended with no agreement on a final text, and the conferees have returned to their respective countries. However, countries in favor of the Arms Trade Treaty are continuing to push hard to finish the text and may continue to push to pass the treaty later in the year. If an agreement is found and the UN passes the treaty, it still must be ratified in order to take effect. It is exclusively a responsibility of the United States Senate to consider and ratify international treaties. Nevertheless, please be assured that I, as a gun owner and a Member of Congress, will always support our Second Amendment rights on legislation that comes before me.
I appreciate you taking the time to contact me regarding these important issues. Hearing from my constituents allows me to better understand your perspective, and how they impact the future of Georgia and the nation. As your representative in Congress, I will continue to take your views into consideration as legislation moves through the process for votes. Thanks again for letting me know your thoughts.
For additional information regarding current legislation and my representation of the Third District, I invite you to visit my website at http://www.house.gov/westmoreland , and to receive my monthly newsletter, you can sign up on my website at http://westmoreland.house.gov/Forms/EmailSignup/
Sincerely,
Lynn A Westmoreland
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I admit that I truly thought Mitt was going to win the election, so we wouldn't have to worry about this - but now we do.
We don't know what 'bama is planning to do, but agreeing to this treaty is a likely first step for him towards attempting to steal our 2nd Amendment rights.
But any treaty has to be ratified by the Senate, and I found the following online: "In the United States, no treaty can be ratified except by consent of the Senate. A two-thirds vote is required for ratification." That second sentence being the most important for us.
This may mean that since there are not 67 Demorats (they all being Socialists these days) in the Senate - and it's likely that no Senate Republicans would support this treaty - that we may have nothing to fear from this treaty (I pray.)
BUT 'bama has said publicly that he doesn't like the Constitution (because it keeps him from doing what he wants) and that if the Congress gets in his way, he'll go around it and rule by executive order. So we may have something to fear after all if it is judged that he can ratify a treaty by executive order (I am not enough of a legal scholar to know if he could legally - or otherwise - do so.) We just have to wait and see how fanatical he will be on this issue (or if he has some unknown tricks up his sleeve.)
I hope (and expect) the NRA will be looking into this question soon, and can give us some definitive answers.
Since election night I have been thinking that I may someday die with a gun in my hand within the coming few years. I hope that will not be necessary.
If there are any police or military personnel here - or if someone is close enough to some of them to ask them - I would like to ask, "If 'bama (by this treaty or other means) declared the 2nd Amendment illegal, and you were ordered to confiscate the firearms of American citizens - and arrest or fire upon those who refused - would you do so, or would you join with them against the government?"
I would hope and PRAY that the vast majority of our police and military personnel would not turn against the American people - but I can't be sure about that.
I think this would be an excellent question for pollsters to ask of the police and military services, and I would love to hear the results!0 -
(NOTE: I sent the following to NRA-ILA website - BEFORE reading the thread at the top of this section's homepage - and will post any reply I get in return.)
What will we do? I mean when 'bama tries - either through the UN treaty or otherwise - to declare the 2nd unconstitutional? I think it is only now a matter of time. I hope all your magazines will begin to carry articles discussing issues, strategies and answering questions I'm sure all citizens concerned about the 2nd now have... "Can 'bama ratify the UN treaty and declare the 2nd illegal by executive order?" "Can the Socialist-controlled Senate ratify it by reconciliation (51 votes?)" Is it treason to talk openly about strategies for resistance if the 2nd is declared illegal?" "Can/will the NRA start contacting police and military personnel imploring them to join with the people if 'bama's government tries to overthrow the 2nd?" What will we (and the NRA) do?0 -
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
quote:Originally posted by mateomasfeo
I'm going to reason with them...
I'm going to season them.[:p]
Peppering is seasoning.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
quote:Originally posted by mateomasfeo
I'm going to reason with them...
I'm going to season them.[:p]
Peppering is seasoning.
And I really like pepper.0
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