1911 45 Lens Lease
I recently bought a 1911 45 acp made in 1945. It was a lend lease gun sent to Britain. It has all the British stamps including the released stamp of 1957. I paid $2150. for the gun. It is in excellent condition with all parts matching and the original finish. I hope someone will remember the gun offered by Locust Fork in Remlap Alabama and tell me what they would value the gun at. Thanks, Robert
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Hello LEND LEASE Act March 11 1941 total of 78,625 model 1911 & 1911A1 the lend lease program shipped to many countries around the world not only England slightly fewer then 40,000 were shipped to ENGLAND
in 1952 these pistols were declared OBSOLETE British proof law required they be marked before they could be offered for sale or exported most were marked "RELEASED BRITISH GOVT.1952" .
What is your pistol Worth [?] Well pun intended it is worth what someone will pay for it[:o)][:I][:0] in your case at least $2150.00
All jokes aside Military 1911 & 1911 A1 can vary in price all over the board even if they have all the correct parts Condition is EVERY THING
Not trying to kiss up to L.F. but she does a great job of pictures on her auctions "next best thing to a hands on inspection [^]" I only have one search that comes up on MY GUNBROKER that is guns that L.F. has for sale . She is respected here & gets some great items . I did not think your pistol was worth $2151.00 or I would have tried to snipe you[}:)][;)]0 -
No offense meant, but asking us to value a pistol sight unseen after you already purchased it. Is a exercise in futility. It would be best to ask our opinion prior to bidding on the pistol.
There are many variables effecting the wartime production 1911A1's. It's been my observation in the past, that the British commercial Proof Marks, have if anything a negative effect on the collectors value of these pistols.0 -
quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
No offense meant, but asking us to value a pistol sight unseen after you already purchased it. Is a exercise in futility. It would be best to ask our opinion prior to bidding on the pistol.
There are many variables effecting the wartime production 1911A1's. It's been my observation in the past, that the British commercial Proof Marks, have if anything a negative effect on the collectors value of these pistols.
I know it's hard if not impossible to value a gun sight unseen but I hoped this gun, in that collection, might have stood out to anyone who watches these auctions. I'm an anglophile so this gun was of special interest to me. I was amazed at the condition upon holding it in my hands. Thanks for the help, Robert0 -
Well, you may have gotten a better response if you had searched completed Gunbroker auctions (using the ADVANCED button on the home page), & given us a link to the original auction. But, now you know that.
I don't think that there is such a thing as "paying too much for a gun", there's just......."paying it too soon". Some day you will look back at this purchase & be glad you did it. True, a similar gun without LL markings would have sold for > $3k; OTOH, within the last year, I have seen refinished Mixed Part Mongrel 1911A1's sell in the $1,200-1,400 range. It's a nice looking gun, & there will always be collectors who want it; maybe sooner than you think.
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Thanks Bigloop22 for posting the pictures for me. I'm new here and need to learn how to post pics. 0 -
I'm not expert on Lend Leased WW2 guns but I'd like to make a few comments.
I've examined Win 94s returned and sold in NYC in the late '40s or early '50s. They had British crown proofs and proof loads expressed in tons. There were no other foreign markings such as returned or "Not English Made".
The 1911 sounds like it might have been for commercial sale and maybe later in the early '60s it was included when England dumped a load of rifles and handguns on the USA.
I saw a First Model DA 44 S&W at a gunshow with miniscule markings that took two powerful magnifying glasses plus a lot of light to make out: "Not British Made".
Marking was a legal requirement for imports but they didn't want customers to easily see it was an American import.
I'd seek expert advice on the marking.
The green parkerizing (refinish?)was of my time in the early '50s.0
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