Help identifying Yellowboy Musket Manufacturer
I wonder if one of you experts may be able to assist me in identifying a 1866 Winchester looking rifle I picked up. The things that don't make sense to me are.
1. The finger lever is held in place with a Round Pin rather than a screw.
2. The side plates do not have a hole in them for a screw to go through the finger lever hole, they only have one hole near the rear by the hammer area.
3. The side plates have a small hole in the very top of them that fit on a protruding stud fixed in the frame/receiver.
4. No marking on the gun that I can see other than a serial number 117816
5. The lower tang is in 2 pieces the long side is part of the frame, but the tail end fits over the long piece and held in place with a wood screw into the butt stock.
I have pictures I can send to anyone willing to help me identify it, once identified I would like to determine value so I can list it on GB and sell it. It does have rifling in the barrel and needs cleaning. The guy I bought it from had no idea as he inherited it from an uncle who passed away. I don't even know the caliber.
Any and all help will be very much appreciated.
Larry
1. The finger lever is held in place with a Round Pin rather than a screw.
2. The side plates do not have a hole in them for a screw to go through the finger lever hole, they only have one hole near the rear by the hammer area.
3. The side plates have a small hole in the very top of them that fit on a protruding stud fixed in the frame/receiver.
4. No marking on the gun that I can see other than a serial number 117816
5. The lower tang is in 2 pieces the long side is part of the frame, but the tail end fits over the long piece and held in place with a wood screw into the butt stock.
I have pictures I can send to anyone willing to help me identify it, once identified I would like to determine value so I can list it on GB and sell it. It does have rifling in the barrel and needs cleaning. The guy I bought it from had no idea as he inherited it from an uncle who passed away. I don't even know the caliber.
Any and all help will be very much appreciated.
Larry
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Haven't we already been down this road?
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=561522
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5615370 -
I agree with spider How many times are you going to ask the same question. This is a modern made REPRODUCTION has NOTHING to do with a collector type rifle. 0 -
I thought the idea of the site was to help - if you have nothing constructive to say ignore the post I'm trying to find help identifying a firearm if you can't help ignore it. 0 -
$250.00 tops.[8] [8] [8] 0 -
Look up a 1866 Uberti Yellow Boy Musket on their web site.
In your other post why didn't you post pictures of the writing on the barrel [?][?][?] We could be more help if this was shown [:0]
Does the rifle this guy is shooting look like yours [?][?]
He is Stretch Hester and the caption sas he is shooting his rare Uberti 1866 musket [:X]
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I feel for ya Larry. We have nothing go on as Bubba didn't think enough of his work to mark it. It would be helpful if you had a chamber cast done. I think you can list it with what you know and let the market find the price. I really doubt that its a super rare prototype, might be ok for a shooter if we knew what shells fit. 0 -
quote:4. No marking on the gun that I can see other than a serial number 117816
It is stylish in some circles to "defarb" a reproduction firearm by removing all the unsightly foreign trademarks and proofmarks, leaving only the legally required serial number. At one time there were some fake American trademarks added, but the manufacturers still in business put a halt to that.0 -
I went back and looked at your pics in the old post,,Its not a Winchester, its an Uberti 1866 3 ring musket, they produced them in both 44-40 and 45LC. In the shape yours was in when the pics was posted I would say it would run in the $400 range 0 -
Gents,
I think that Larry is trying to find out why his rifle:
...has no holes in its sideplates:
...for the finger lever screw, like ALL of the other 1866 guns do, including original & reproduction versions:
He also wants to know if anyone can tell him who made his rifle, with those differences, and why his rifle's finger lever is held in place by a pin, instead of a screw. ...plus, why does his rifle have locating pins protruding from its receiver (top of frame):
...when the other brands of 1866 rifles do not have them.
Larry's rifle appears to have another unique feature: the two-piece lower tang:
I, too, would like to know who made this rifle, and why does it have these differences. We may never know the answers, but it does not appear to be any one of the Uberti, Cimarron, or other replicas. It does not appear to be a Winchester.0
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