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shilow
where can i buy a selective fire kit for a AR 15?
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  • 62fuelie
    They are available from a variety of sources, including brownell's and Sarco. Be sure you have your letter from ATFE allowing the conversion from semi to full/select fire. With the machine work involved in doing this right you might be better of getting one from a reputable dealer and having it legal and safe right from the start.
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  • nmyers
    You cannot legally convert an AR-15 to select fire without prior approval from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, & Explosives, & they will not give you approval.

    End of discussion. Any attempt to circumvent the law can lead to 5 years in a federal prison.

    Neal
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  • llama
    As I posted in the WTB forum, look in the class 3 section of the auction side - specifically you are looking for a lightning link or a transferable FA.

    Or get a slide fire stock...
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  • Bill Jordan
    Good Luck, and get some help.
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  • KEVD18
    two options here:

    1) you're an agent of the batfe who thinks we're all really that stupid.

    2) (This is not General Discussion so there is no name calling here) i recommend you do some more reading on this topic. as stated earlier, you cant make a new machine gun without an approved form 1 from the batfe. they will only give one of those to a licensed(and taxed/stamped) manufacturer. if you were one of those, you wouldnt be asking on a gun forum where to buy machine gun parts.

    so the simple answer is you can buy the parts, schematics, and tools from several places(this being one of them); but without a valid form 1 you're committing a felony.

    one final note. overtly soliciting information on how to make and convert guns to fire full auto is how david koresh and his followers got themselves on the radar. i think we all know how that experiment ended, and if you dont then you need to look it up.
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  • 11b6r
    quote:5 years in a federal prison

    Actually, I think it's 10 years, and a $10,000 fine.
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  • mark christian
    There are no actual "kits" which, unlike the ones for the M2 Carbine, allow direct conversion from semi auto to selective fire. You can purchase a registered Drop In Auto Sear or a so called Lightning Link, both of which will accomplish what you are looking for, but these little do-dads will be nearly as expensive as an actual complete M16 Rifle (or registered AR-15 conversion) so expect sticker shock when you see the asking prices.
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  • Txs
    quote:Originally posted by shilow
    where can i buy a selective fire kit for a AR 15?
    Nowhere. Per federal law an individual can't convert a semiauto to select fire.

    Outside of being a Class III dealer and having them for sales demonstration purposes, the only full autos an individual in the US can own/possess are those manufactured and registered prior to the ban of 1986.

    The Lightning Link devices MC refers to can legally be installed in a post-'86 manufactured receiver, but it's a Class III item and also must have been manufactured/registered prior to the passage of this act.

    EDIT:
    quote:Originally posted by tsr1965
    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=365687

    John, has done a great job with putting this information together.

    There was no ban in 1986, it was actually the GCA of 1934, which stated that all machineguns(basically), would be registered, then the one in 1968 1986, which stated that there would be no more manufacture of machine guns for civilian use, or legal civilian transfer. In 1986 1968, that was an amnesty act, that allowed anything made before 1968, that was not yet registered, to be registered.
    Your statements contradict the correct info stated in that linked post.

    In addition to the corrections I made, the Firearms Owner Protection Act of 1986 did in fact lay down a ban. It completely prohibits individual ownership of machineguns not manufactured prior to the date of it's adoption. The inevitable result is that eventually the only full auto firearms which can be legally owned/possessed by individuals will be those of antique design.
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  • tsr1965
    Here is some reading for all of you except MC. In his business, he is well aware of all of the laws.

    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=365687

    John, has done a great job with putting this information together.

    There was no ban in 1986, it was actually the GCA of 1934, which stated that all machineguns(basically), would be registered, then the one in 1968, which stated that there would be no more manufacture of machine guns for civilian use, or legal civilian transfer. In 1986, that was an amnesty act, that allowed anything made before 1968, that was not yet registered, to be registered.

    Transferrable NFA weapons are expensive(but the only way for civilians to own them, legally), and as Mark has stated, they are expensive, along with the drop in auto sears, and the HK sear packs that are registered. With the registered auto sears, they "are the gun", and they may be used on/in any reciever, as long as it is marked so, which means the ATF has to put an approval on the lower, along with the registration/serial number of the registered auto sear.

    Best

    Yep,

    I stand corrected...Seems like I always get that backwards.
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  • Hawk Carse
    quote:There was no ban in 1986, it was actually the GCA of 1934, which stated that all machineguns(basically), would be registered, then the one in 1968, which stated that there would be no more manufacture of machine guns for civilian use, or legal civilian transfer. In 1986, that was an amnesty act, that allowed anything made before 1968, that was not yet registered, to be registered.

    I think you have that one just precisely backwards.
    The GCA 1968 had a short amnesty period to register machine guns etc that were not already on the books. I had a college classmate with a DEWAT Maxim gun in his dorm room that he registered in hopes of being able to reactivate it and get it shooting. The rest of that law was largely devoted to prohibiting private purchase mailorder or out of state and restricting importation of foreign guns that might compete with domestic manufactured ones.

    The so-called FOPA 1986 is the one that froze the registry, not allowing any newly made guns for commercial sale. I know a number of people with privately held submachine guns made over that 18 year period, 1968-1986.
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