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  • jonk
    Nice theory... but a lot of .22 bullets are unlubed. .22s don't lead because pressure and gas volume isn't enough to blow by the sides and gas cut the lead.

    Don't get me wrong, lube IS indeed a critical component. What some folks swear by, others swear at.

    I would agree that alloy is overrated. For the guns you've been shooting, anything other than dead soft lead should suffice. If you don't think bullet size (diameter) is that important though... well I could show you some groups from my .303 british with .308" bullets vs. .314" bullets that would beg to differ. Similarly, try shooting a .355" 9mm bullet down a .361" .38 smith and wesson bore and see how far you get.

    It's how it all fits together that's key.
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  • charliemeyer007
    For me every gun has what it likes. It was a sad day when I filled up the sizer luber with the last of the "Stu" lube. It was a home made concoction of black graphite, STP, beeswax, perhaps alox, vasolene and other lost additives, so I returned to 50/50 alox/beeswax. I don't the hard lubes like rooster red, they look nice on the bullets but don't work for me.

    Having lots of bullet sizing dies is helpful.

    Generally I like the design by Loverin for rifle and Keith for pistol.

    Plus the 22's seal via minnie ball, hollow base skirt.
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  • jonk
    quote:Originally posted by charliemeyer007


    Plus the 22's seal via minnie ball, hollow base skirt.


    I'm not saying there aren't any hollow based .22s out there, but one or two I've pulled were essentially flat based heeled bullets. IOW, it looks like a little step.

    OTOH, some 45/70 ammo (for instance) does utilize a hollow base bullet, and while pressure does help the base expand and seal, no lube or poor lube choice still equals leading if the projectile is undersized, whereas proper lube and bullet fit still doesn't lead out of my trapdoor or handi rifle if lube is present and bullet fit is 1/1000" over bore diameter.

    A hollow base though, in principle, will indeed also up the fudge factor permitting a slightly undersized bullet (ala minie ball as you suggest).
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