k 22 outdoorsman ed mcgivern
my friends father was given a 22 from ed mcgivern it is actually engraved to my shooting buddy mike and sighned by ed with the engraver its a first modle k 22 outdoorsman in the 600000 range the target sights were not made adjustable at this time because of the war.he has a smith and wesson letter of the guns authiticity ,the gun is infair to good conditiononly because it hasnt been cleaned in years and the blueing is wore from holster use the grips are a multi color plastic that he said were allways on the gun since he was a kid,I would rate the gun at 60-70 condition but what might it sell for at auction? any interest
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Ken,
We need good, close, clear pictures of the Smith to give you a realistic value.
There is a "sticky" at the top of the page that explains how to post pictures.
W.D.0 -
preacherken, Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson describes the gun you have as a .22 Military and Police Model. It says this was the only K frame S & W without an adjustable rear sight. Where did you find the information about wartime production K-22's being made without an adjustable rear sight? All gun books have errors. The book I cited may be wrong. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Herschel
preacherken, Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson describes the gun you have as a .22 Military and Police Model. It says this was the only K frame S & W without an adjustable rear sight. Where did you find the information about wartime production K-22's being made without an adjustable rear sight? All gun books have errors. The book I cited may be wrong.
You guys got me confused here! I was under the impression that the Model 45 was the only "K" frame, S & W .22, without adjustable sights.
As Herschel notes though, it was a fixed sight version of the Model 18 not the K 22.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Herschel
preacherken, Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson describes the gun you have as a .22 Military and Police Model. It says this was the only K frame S & W without an adjustable rear sight. Where did you find the information about wartime production K-22's being made without an adjustable rear sight? All gun books have errors. The book I cited may be wrong.0 -
the s&w letter for this gun states there was a period in wartime production that they used fixed sights,allso ed mcgivern was the worlds best quick draw shooter he wrote the and set the standard for all comp shooting 0 -
If it is positively traceable to Ed McGivern, it ought to be worth a good deal.
I don't know about the sights and can't imagine .22s being made during the war because of contract obligations to the British and the US for .38s.
First production K22 Outdoorsmans (Outdoorsmen?) had sights that were adjustable but were very low profile and not micrometer click.
Pictures would sure be nice.0 -
I suggest the letter from Smith and Wesson would be the best evidence as to what the gun is.
Rufe Snow, I didn't use any model number in my post above. The gun we are talking about was made 10 or 15 years before S & W started using model numbers.0 -
No need to quibble over the various details of the S&W. Concentrate on proving the McGivern connection. That's where the big money lies. Even if the gun is a cheap Spanish copy of a S&W it has substantial value if Ed owned it. 0 -
First for ... sakes clean it. Then worry about value. Even a highly collectable piece, as that may well be, will lose value to grime and corrosion.
I believe the model 14 also didnt have an adjustable rear sight.0 -
The K-38, which S & W later designated the Model 14 came with an adjustable rears sight, at least as early as 1954 when it was described in the Gun Digest.
Be sure you know how to clean the revolver without removing any finish. A cruddy gun will have more value than a clean one with white metal where there had been at least a trace of blue.0
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