Mauser action Need help ID ing bullet type
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Need help in the ID of the bullet used in this rifle. I've posted photos of stampings on barrel. Had thought it was a Savage 22HP. Bored dia is about .219. Thanks Rocky5[img][/img]
Need help in the ID of the bullet used in this rifle. I've posted photos of stampings on barrel. Had thought it was a Savage 22HP. Bored dia is about .219. Thanks Rocky5[img][/img]
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Bore diameter of a 22 S hi power is .228 it has a metric designation of IIRC of 5.6x52mmR.
Oops that should be grove diameter of .228. A long time ago Speer had made a nice run of 70 gr bullets, I might have some left.
And I would like to see bolt face etc pic's.0 -
I got to agree with Charlie. The proof marks show a bullet weight of 4.6 grams which works out to 71 grains approximately. This was the weight of the bullets in European loadings of the Savage H-P. The case length is given as 52 millimeters which also is correct. Finally there is a three digit number which would be the German date of proof.
I have no explanation for the .219 dimension you obtained. It would be best to used a #1 soft buckshot to obtain the correct groove diameter.
EDIT 1, the marking of 5.5 millimeter in the proof marks would work out to approximately .217 this would be close to the .219 you obtained as the bore diameter.0 -
Rocky57,
Here are three of the images at original size for the rest of the members to view:
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quote:Originally posted by charliemeyer007
Bore diameter of a 22 S hi power is .228 it has a metric designation of IIRC of 5.6x52mmR.
Actually it is not. The GROOVE diameter of The Imp is a nominal .227-228". BORE diameter is probably .219-.220".
The proof house checked with a plug gauge which had to be a slip fit in the BORE, which is probably why most of these proof mark diameters run small.
Any road, I think a Mauser in a small rimmed caliber like that is a neat item. Can you show pictures of the magazine and bolt face so we can see how they managed it?
CAUTION, I clicked on one of the picture links in the OP and got one of those fake virus warning hoaxes. My regular antivirus kept it from sticking but it is still a worry.0 -
First off thanks a bunch for the information. I attempted to chamber a 22 HP of both vintage and new production Ammo. Rounds fed nice and smooth from magazine. There is a stud at the back of the follower and the first round need to be on the chamber ( Front ) side in order to feed. Bolt handle did lock, but was a bit hard. ( Did Not fire int rifle) Base of 22 HP fits to the bolt face like a glove and extracted / ejected nicely. Rocky57
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The 22 H.P. Has a dia of .228,the loads in europe are .224 5.5X52r
which are loaded S&B.I have used both in my 99 sav but see no dif.I have molds and sizers lyman for .228 but have never used them.with cast bullets and gas cks it seems to make no dif.tks hedge[:D]0 -
Update on progress: I placed a GO gage in the chamber and could not close the bolt. I did a 2nd chamber cast and checked all the measurements and all shows the same listed for a 22HP. I coated a empty and sized casing with lay out ink placed in in the chamber and closed the bolt and the only tight area was on the face of the base of the casing. Could it be that European cases are thinner on the bases? I checked all the 22HP rounds I have and all mic the same. I removed material from the empty casing and after a few time the bolt locked up nice and easy. Another thing I noticed was unlike the chamber on a Savage 1899 in 22HP that is set into the barrel the chamber on this rifle is flat across the face. 0 -
Herr Braun in Stuttgart may have set the rifle up for ammunition he had on hand instead of a headspace gauge.
I have read of similar problems when .222 Remington Magnum got popular in Germany. There were all manner of oddball chambers because different shops would grind reamers based on ammunition they had instead of going to American specs.0 -
Thank you for the info. Had not thought about the that 0
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