7.62 X 25
Why has no one made a modern gun for the 7.62 X 25? Surplus ammo is still cheap and it is fun to shoot. I only know of 3 hand guns that will fire it.
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The 7.62x25 has a longer COAL than any current production autopistol round, too long to put into say, a .38 Super action.
No manufacturer is likely to tool up for a new frame just to shoot cheap surplus ammo.0 -
I think there was a 7.62x25 conversion kit for the law grizzly mark 1, but I could be wrong. 0 -
Hawk C I understand your comment. It is long. What about a carbine or a revolver? 0 -
I've seen ar uppers in 7.62x25 0 -
There you go.
There has been some work done on converting the .38 Super to 7.62x25. J&G Sales has a barrel for the purpose. You can get 4 or 5 rounds in a .38 Super magazine at a slant.
If you want a full load, it is possible to deep seat and recrimp the bullets. This runs chamber pressure up, although not as much as it would in a straight case. Or you can handload flatpoint bullets, which kind of defeats the purpose.0 -
You must have better surplus 7.62x25 than the black plastic box crap that I had. The CZ-52 I bought to shoot it was an OK pistol, that ammo was about 10% good full power, 25% varing squib, 25% would go on the second strike and the rest were duds. I tossed the rest that crap in a fire and gave the pistol away. Way back in 70's had the rusky pistol which was fun and liked peters 30 mauser. 0 -
As I remember I got a deal on a can of 1200 rounds at a good price. They were old Soviet Union Mil surplus. They were copper plated steel core and they have all fired OK and have good power. I assume there is still a lot out there. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Bamavol
Why has no one made a modern gun for the 7.62 X 25? Surplus ammo is still cheap and it is fun to shoot. I only know of 3 hand guns that will fire it.
There are more than one.
You can buy a commercially made 1911 conversion in 7.62x25 here:
http://www.jgsales.com/7.62x25-tokarev-barrel-kit,-5-inch,-for-1911-govt-models-in-9mm-or-38-super.-new,-by-j-g-sales.-p-5619.html
There are remakes of the Sterling in a 7.62x25 pistol. I don't know if these are still in production or not (my guess is no), but there are plenty of them floating around, if you wanted to buy one:
http://centerfiresystems.com/sterling-pistol.aspx
You can buy the carbine version of same right here for $400 (scroll down):
http://www.classicfirearms.co/semi-auto rifles.htm0 -
I don't know how the 1911 conversions will fly. A number of 1911's that were left in Asia after WW2 were converted to the Tok cartridge, but those also had frame modifications for taking a properly-dimensioned magazine.
The Chinese produced some commercial Tokarevs that were the 'reverse', ergo, they were 7.62's with auxiliary .38 Super barrels. I had one, and it worked well, but those entire guns were already dimensioned for the longer Tokarev cartridge.
Hawk Carse has a point, a new commercial gun that is purpose-built for the Tok cartridge may never see daylight. It's a matter of profit potential.
BTW, I bought a couple of those PPS-43C's, and the accuracy is good. Both shot into less that two inches at 25 yards, from a rest. But they are unwieldy. And, they do not want to light anything with hard military primers. They had no problem with commercial ammunition. I put together some loads with Sierra 85 gr softnose bullets, which clocked at over 1700 fps, and which would make for good defense ammunition.0 -
I always thought it would be different to re-chamber a .30 Carbine Ruger Blackhawk cylinder to that caliber. I brought it up on the forums a while back and got mixed reviews. Just my 2 cents worth. 0
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