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Was there a factory remington xp-100 rifle

altecgb
I bought an xp-100 rifle at an estate auction that looks a lot like the one in this auction:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=277532349

It has a similar stock except that heelpad is black with white trim (the shoulder pad is marked fajen). So a couple of questions

1. Did remington make a custom version of the xp-100 as a rifle with a 24" barrel?

2. There is no caliber marked on the barrel of this rifle. The auction company claimed 222 but I have no way to confirm it. Whats the safe way to find out what this rifle is really chambered in?
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  • nononsense
    altecgb,

    Remington did not manufacture an XP-100 rifle. Any rifle with an XP-100 action was usually custom made. Many benchrest folks used the actions for competition rifles.

    The safest way to check the chamber is to cast it with Cerosafe and measure the casting. Other than that you could try using headspace gauges but one gauge can be used for several cartridges in some instances. We have to remove the firing pin assembly and the ejector in order to get a proper measurement from the gauge.

    Tell the auction house to have the chamber verified, it's their responsibility.

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  • Hawk Carse
    Remington did make a rifle on the XP 100 action but I don't recall if they CALLED it that. It did not look like the one illustrated and you most likely bought a gunsmith project pig in a poke.
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  • charliemeyer007
    I think the XP action found favor because it was thought to be stiffer with no magazine cut out. You should make sure the trigger assembly/safety works correctly.
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  • BGHillbilly
    If you picked it up at the Jonesboro auction Saturday, I noticed the same 'non-markings' with regard to caliber which I would think odd on a factory gun even from the custom shop. The auction company was relying on the fFL guys for thier information on the guns. Apparently they ran the range the deceased frequented and they knew him very well, they should 'know' what his guns were if anyone did. That being said the auction company advertisements had many misprints, never did see the Springfield Arms MTA 308, the DPMAS AR 15 or the Hakin 8mm. They did have a M1A, a DPMS, and a Hakim. Would hate to think your advertised .222 was infact a .223. I do not recall what the young man(from the range) anounced it as at the time it sold but that would be more correct than what the auction company advertised it as.

    Looks like it is chamber casting time or contact the range and see if they KNOW for sure what it is.
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  • tsr1965
    quote:Originally posted by Hawk Carse
    Remington did make a rifle on the XP 100 action but I don't recall if they CALLED it that. It did not look like the one illustrated and you most likely bought a gunsmith project pig in a poke.


    Actually, the XP-100, was made on a solid bottom version of the Remington 600, or visa/versa. Another rifle that had the "X_"-100 name, was the XR-100, made recently. It was a solid bottom also, but was on the 700 type action.

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    quote:I might have overlooked the recent addition to Remington rifle line (XR-100) which is not an XP-100 but I can't find a record of the XP-100 rifle. That's the reason we all bought the pistols and tore them apart to build rifles for competitions.

    Ohh My...now we are really showing our age and experience.[:0][:0]

    However, one had to do, what one had to do, to get the rigidness into the platform. A lot of builders, and gunsmiths, were well ahead of the engineer's on the learning curve.

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  • nononsense
    Hawk Carse,

    "Remington did make a rifle on the XP 100 action but I don't recall if they CALLED it that. It did not look like the one illustrated and you most likely bought a gunsmith project pig in a poke."

    I might have overlooked the recent addition to Remington rifle line (XR-100) which is not an XP-100 but I can't find a record of the XP-100 rifle. That's the reason we all bought the pistols and tore them apart to build rifles for competitions.

    Please show some identification for this model. Photographs or links to the rifle as issued from the factory would be great.

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  • JIM STARK
    The XP-100 handgun came from Remington 1st...The M-600/660 came next... IIRC Remington was concerned that if the rifle came before the handgun, BATF would be concerned that the handgun was a cut down rifle...The hand guns were clearly marked XP-100 and the rifles M-600/660..If you have a long barreled XP-100, you have a maverick....
    JIM..........
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  • Hawk Carse
    quote:I might have overlooked the recent addition to Remington rifle line (XR-100) which is not an XP-100

    The XR 100 is undoubtedly what I had in mind.
    The gunzine articles when it was new SAID it was on the XP action.

    Sorry, I can't document it from materials on hand and don't care to search for them.
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  • tsr1965
    quote:Originally posted by Hawk Carse
    quote:I might have overlooked the recent addition to Remington rifle line (XR-100) which is not an XP-100

    The XR 100 is undoubtedly what I had in mind.
    The gunzine articles when it was new SAID it was on the XP action.Sorry, I can't document it from materials on hand and don't care to search for them.



    It could have been on several different 600/700 based actions, including the 40-X, XP-100, Model 7, or even the 700 short action.

    My theory, since they had long been out of the XP-100 actions, from inventory, and the newer repeating XP-100R's were built on the model 7 actions(that were out of spec on the back bridge for a true model 7), would be that they used a short solid bottom 40-X, off the shelf, with a 700 trigger. I see no reason for Remington to re-tool for the 600.XP-100 action.

    Remember too, that the gun scribes get paid for good articles, not bad or mediocre ones. Their checks indirectly come from the folks providing the equipment to be tested or showcased. Knowing the history of Big Green at that time, I wouldn't believe a word that came from their mouth.

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  • nononsense
    I had a suspicion that it was the XR-100, which as pointed out, is not an XP-100. This was Remington's quick fix for the demand for the former single shot, use an existing model and simply re-brand it as the XR-100. It was a failure since it had no resemblance to the XP-100 for competition at all.

    Now Remington has lost all the edge that they once controlled, to all of the aftermarket manufacturers who are extremely willing to produce fine, custom single shot actions at market pricing. Once again demonstrating Remington's loss of connection with their customers and the market.

    "Ohh My...now we are really showing our age and experience."

    I'm still not as old as you think since I merely started at a very young and tender age...

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