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IdahoRedneck
Hello all, looking at buying a good rangefinder, in particular the Zeiss VictoryPRF or the Leica 1600. Would like good non reflective ranging out to 1000- 1200 yards.. Just looking for your opinions on the two, and which one you would choose and why, or if there is a better option out there... Trying to stay in that 6-800 dollar range....

Thanks in advance.... Dan
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  • tsr1965
    Dan,

    I have the Leica Rangemaster 1600. I LOVE it! The only way to get possibly better, would be to have them incorperated in a pair of high ed binocular's. Zeiss, leica, and Swarovski, all make them. I would have gotten pair, but refuse to have binoculars that have batteries.

    I got the rangefinder last year, and got the Zeiss Victory 10x56 binoculars this year. I get all of my high end optics from eurooptic.com

    They are a big seller n the auction side too. Great folks to talk to, and very knowledgable.

    Best

    EDIT 1

    Lets put it this way...with a little snow cover, I know it works on a large Whitetail buck, out to 1120 yards. I am not sure how it would work with less contrast.

    Best
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  • Mk 19
    Both the Leica and Ziess are great units that also have great options, you really can not go wrong with either one. But if it was my money I would save an additional $2000 and buy the Swarovski EL Range 10X42.

    However, I do understand that not everyone can spend that sort of money so out of the two you picked, which buy the way are the best in their class, I would pick the Ziess Victory PRF. The reason for this is that the PRF has the same basic capability as the CRF, But it cost less and it has a larger body that is held horizontally. A rangefinder that is held horizontally, like a binocular, is much easier to hold steady at long range than a small unit that is held vertically, like the CRF.
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  • IdahoRedneck
    quote:Originally posted by Mk 19
    Both the Leica and Ziess are great units that also have great options, you really can not go wrong with either one. But if it was my money I would save an additional $2000 and buy the Swarovski EL Range 10X42.

    However, I do understand that not everyone can spend that sort of money so out of the two you picked, which buy the way are the best in their class, I would pick the Ziess Victory PRF. The reason for this is that the PRF has the same basic capability as the CRF, But it cost less and it has a larger body that is held horizontally. A rangefinder that is held horizontally, like a binocular, is much easier to hold steady at long range than a small unit that is held vertically, like the CRF.


    I wondered about it being held horizontally....Makes sense that you can hold it more stable for better readings at longer ranges.

    The zeiss says its rated for 1300 yards reflective.....My Dad has a nikon monarch 800 that will only read to 800 if the target is highly reflective most days your lucky to even see 700..... I would like to see good non reflective ranging out to 1000 yards.. Does the Zeiss do this or should I save some more coin....[:)]

    Thanks in advance again. Dan
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  • Mk 19
    quote:The zeiss says its rated for 1300 yards reflective.....My Dad has a nikon monarch 800 that will only read to 800 if the target is highly reflective most days your lucky to even see 700..... I would like to see good non reflective ranging out to 1000 yards.. Does the Zeiss do this or should I save some more coin

    The PRF, as you stated, is rated at 1300 reflective and 800 non-reflective. The CRF is rated at 1600 reflective and 1000 non-reflective. What I personally use is the Swarovski LG 8X30, it is rated at 1500 reflective and 1200 non-reflective, however I consistantly pick up on targets at much greater ranges. I have ranged a tractor trailor out to 1969 and a flying police helecoptor to 1642.

    I have not had much experience with the PRF as I do not sell that model, so the only time I have been able to play with one has been at other optics shops, in those play times I have been able to run reflective targets in excess of 1500 yards and non-reflective out to 1100. Again this is very limited testing out of the front of a store.

    However I have had a the past 2 years to play with the CRF 1600 as it is a regular stocking item of mine, out of my store I have been able to run reflective to 1500 and large non-reflective to 1100. Just about the same as the PRF but far less than the Swarovski LG.

    Benefits to the Swarovski are that it has the best glass of any rangefinder on the market, it has the longest ranging capability and it is very comfortable to hold and steady in the hand. Problems are that is is strictly a line-of-sight unit and does not have any form of angle or ballistic compensation. It is heavy and the reticule is of a very poor design with a orange color 20 MOA circle that covers 200 in of a target at 1000 yards and washes out in bright light. It is also a bit over your price range at a retail of $999.99.

    The Ziess is the best value out of this bunch if you would like to save a bit of money and still run targets to range. However if you can get over the small issues with the Swarovski and you want the longest ranging capability, then spend a little more and buy the LG.
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  • IdahoRedneck
    Thank you Tsr1965 and Mk19.... I think I will go with the Zeiss for the money. Great reviews[^] Thanks again Dan.
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