Ithica 1911A1
Hey guys I ran into a friend that just inherited his dads Ithica 1911A1. He asked me to find out any info I could. I cleaned it and found no rust but alot of cosmoline.S/n 2137XXX. Heres some pics
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Hello unfortunately with the blocked out serial number But then writing a serial in the verbiage[?][?][?][?][?] we can give you a date of 1943 all Ithaca NOT ITICA
pistols were made between 1943 and 1945 The gun pictured is either in (very good condition, ( Not likely ) or
[(refinished by military or later by anyone from owner to gunsmith or maybe the military .
Would need either more detailed pictures of gun with slide removed or hands on inspection
to give value. In MY opinion Hiding the serial number and asking for information Is akin to blindfolding us [V][:(]
. The military did not give issue pistols Away
and ITHACA never sold pistols to civilians SO no matter what the serial it once belonged to the U.S. Military .
However many were sold between WW II and 1968 by the DCM and no records are available so it can't be claimed to be
illegal for you friend to own [:)]As other poster related many of the
early Ithaca pistols had quality control problems [:(] but still
have value if all the correct original type parts .0 -
Ithica made the worst of the 1911A1's during WWII. Fit and finish was always below par with several parts subcontracted by Ithica at times during the war. They still have value just because of what they were, but were a disappointment and their contract was terminated asap. 0 -
Ithica did not make crap in the war; ITHACA did!!
C'mon; you are gun people!!!0 -
My reference shows that frames in the 2,137XXX range were made by Remington Rand in 1945. That would have an affect on its value. Also holster wear is much more apparent on the frame then on the slide. 0 -
if i could see the complete number i could tell you some thing[;)] 0 -
Sorry for the errors. This pistol was owned by a guy who was a bomber pilot in WWII he has owned it since the war. Do not know for sure if he carried it in the war (pilots did not generally carry 45's) sn is 2137997 if that helps. I will add a pic with it. Also the finish and wear do match. The gun has not been altered since the war. I will need to get pic of the bottom of the slide maybe tommarrow. [img][http://i789.photobucket.com/albums/yy177/pistollero1050/Roscos1911022-1.jpg/img][/img] I sure suck at uploading pictures!0 -
It might help if we could see a close up photo of the main spring housing (close enough we can count the ribs), as well as pics of the barrel markings.
But, sadly, rufe-snow's observation means that your friend has a mixed parts gun, actually a Remington Rand (with an Ithaca slide). The receiver IS the gun. It was not uncommon for folks in the service to have gun cleaning parties, at which time it was possible to intermix parts. If the GI's had only known how important it would be to us, they would have been more careful to keep their guns separated.
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I'll get more pics. I don't know if it means anything but the slide and frame are both stamped with a P as shown in pictures 2,3,&5. The frame is also stampe PJA. 0 -
P is just a common proof the FJA = frank J attwood apears on ithaca,remington rand & US&S frames on the left trigger sadly gun is a shooter mixmaster 0 -
Okay, I would tend to agree but sometimes a pig might be a prize. I would hate to pass one up. I'll still get those other pics but probly won't change anything. 0
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