German Drilling-Help in ID'ing and value
Looking for help in ID'ing and valuing the shown German Drilling. I believe it was made around 1900, it appears to be a 16 ga with the rifle barrel in the 9mm range. The gun was brought back from Germany by a WW2 vet. The widow wants to know its value in case she wants to sell it. Any help in this would be appreciated.
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Hammer drilling with BACK ACTION locks most likely 9.3 X 72 R a fairly low power cartridge.16 Ga and even maybe black powder not nitro proofed Along with condition and limited number of buyers interest in this type of Fire-Arm local sale for her very low value . National site like G.B. with lots of good picture maybe $1000.00 on it's best day if listed for 6 Months. IMHO this is the type of gun that reached its PEAK value in the 1960's and 1970's new buyers want military TYPE older guns. 0 -
Close-up quality photos of all proof and identification markings might help DOM. 0 -
There are very few markings on the gun. The term "nike" is very faint, what appears to be a serial # is near the top of left shot gun barrel near the rear of the barrel, otherwise there are no other markings. The lady took the gun to the local Gander Mountain Store and the "gun smith" there supposedly looked the gun up in some books and told her the gun was worth something like $20,000.00. I told her that that was very likely not true. 0 -
I'd tell the GM expert that he could give me $10,000 cash and would not mind that he could double his money. Riiight.
Generally agree with perry shooter.
It is most likely a 16 ga x 65mm (2 9/16" shells) over 9.3x72 which is a low powered European equivalent of .38-55 (but not interchangeable.)
I can't find anything on a Nike drilling; all I get is shoe ads.0 -
quote:Originally posted by ammo guy
There are very few markings on the gun. The term "nike" is very faint, what appears to be a serial # is near the top of left shot gun barrel near the rear of the barrel, otherwise there are no other markings. The lady took the gun to the local Gander Mountain Store and the "gun smith" there supposedly looked the gun up in some books and told her the gun was worth something like $20,000.00. I told her that that was very likely not true.
The German gun laws started requiring mandatory proof marks in the early 1890's, when smokeless powder first started to be utilized for sporting arms. Either it was made before then or more likely the markings are on the water table and under sides of the barrel not visible unless the gun is broken down.0 -
I agree with Perry Shooter as to value. Thanks to the idiot at Gander Mountain, the lady will probably never sell the drilling. If someone offers her a fair price she will think they are trying to cheat her. 0 -
ammo guy,
I'm sure you've been thorough in your search for marks but I still suggest that you take some time to look at the water table and the flat section under the breech end of the barrels for marks. Then take the forearm off and look under there. Pictures of the marks found will be very helpful in telling a little more about the drilling, as 'rufe-snow' states.
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In 1975 in Germany I had the chance to buy a 16x16 with the metric version of the Savage 22 Hi Power. Was in a little nicer condition metal finish wise and a lot nicer wood wise. I think it was about $1500 to $1800. The rifle bbl was fired by folding down the right hammer to strike the third firing pin. I would like to see how this one functions. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by charliemeyer007
In 1975 in Germany I had the chance to buy a 16x16 with the metric version of the Savage 22 Hi Power. Was in a little nicer condition metal finish wise and a lot nicer wood wise. I think it was about $1500 to $1800. The rifle bbl was fired by folding down the right hammer to strike the third firing pin. I would like to see how this one functions.
Lever under the trigger guard.0
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