300 wsm....what happened to it?
what has happened to the 300 wsm? did it die, why is there such a lack of intrest in it? as i look at the listings on broker...there is no activity on the guns or ammo. i do realize that it is the wrong time of year according to most, but in my opinion now is the time to buy in preperation to hunting season. i know that it is mass produced and stuff can be had at local retailers but come on there has to be some body interested in 300 wsm stuff.
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Why would a Lazzeroni fan be interested in a WSM??
Just curious....
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Did we really need another .30 caliber cartridge? Tough to justify when hunters are already long established with some of the most popular rifle cartridges of all-time; .30-30 Winchester, .308 Winchester, .30-06 Springfield, .300 Win Mag, & .300 Weatherby Mag. 0 -
Market Saturation. 0 -
There are certain buyers that have to have the newest zowie on the market. The gun and ammo makers tap into that until it peaks, then they drop it.
Look at the .17 for example. It's been reincarnated five times since the late 50's and failed every time, mostly because it's not really a long range cartridge in any wind. It was the new cartridge de jour a few years ago. It will eventually die out although it's lasted longer this time than before.0 -
the lazzeroni fan couldnt afford to feed the 3 lazzeroni's that i had. 7.82 warbird, 7.21 firebird, and 7.82 patriot. had to move on to other ventures....benelli r1 300wsm....(very drastic mistake) gun was trash so again moved on from that. anyway i guess it is market saturation. it may come back around or as the season changes it may regain life 0 -
The same thing is happening to the 300 WSM as happened to the.
7-30 Waters.
307 Winchester.
356 Winchester.
375 Winchester.
225 Winchester.
The gun companies are in the business to make money. If folks won't buy rifles chambered for certain calibers, they are just dropped from production.0 -
Well, the real explanation is quite lengthy, and many sided. There are several factor's that have contributed to the down swing, but the overall market downswing would be the bigger of them all.
The 300 WSM was touted as the super accurate short, fat magnum, like a magnumized version of the PPC cartridges. Yes, short, fat efficient cartridges do have some characteristics needed to provide super accuracy, but only using quality hardware. The fact that most factory casings, outside of the Lapua, norma, and Nosler brass, lack the care and quality needed to achieve this.
It was also bragged up to provide the performance of the larger 300 Winchester Magnum. Well, it can in factory loads, but when given to the knowledgable handloader, the old reliable 300 Winchester Magnum, can really shine. The benchrest shooters like the 300 WSM, when they need the weight in serious winds, but are just as well served by the 7mm's, and more so with the 6.5's, with less recoil.
So, basically, in a nutshell, it has finally been discovered, 12 years later, that the 300 WSM, is not all it was bragged up to be, without a little help.
I am sure some other's, like Nononsense, and Sandwarrior will chime in also.
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Everything useful was probably invented by 1935.[:D] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by machine gun moran
Everything useful was probably invented by 1935.[:D]
.308 Winchester: 1952
.44 magnum: 1955 (commercial)
But other than those two. . .yeah, you're probably right. [}:)][:p]0 -
lazzeroni-fan,
"what has happened to the 300 wsm? did it die, why is there such a lack of intrest in it?"
Nothing has happened to the .300 WSM or any of the other WSM cartridges. It didn't die and in fact is enjoying quite a bit of attention from a larger, more diverse group of people interested in a fine short action cartridge.
Your conjecture about the demise of the .300 WSM is predicated on presumptive evidence. In essence, you believe that Gunbroker represents the movements and intricacies of the entire firearms and ammunition industry. While Gunbroker is certainly the largest and best of the auction sites, it is by no means the barometer of the industries it represents. It's a small sliver of a much, much bigger pie. It would behoove you to get out and take a look around some of the other websites which are representative of the industries.
Sales of cartridges can be greatly affected by location and demographics. Worse, the statistics can be grossly distorted by the firearms manufacturers themselves. The naysayers above often make statements regarding the success of the .30-06 Springfield rifle cartridge. I take nothing away from the cartridge itself but if the rifle makers only produce rifles chambered for a few cartridges and the vast majority are .30-06, then the .30-06 becomes the most popular cartridge by shear numbers. It's been this way for 100 years and will probably continue for 100 more.
Bear in mind that many of the firearms makers stumbled with their first releases of the rifles chambered for this cartridge. In their hurry to get into the market, they missed some small but vital geometry requirements to get these cartridges to feed reliably. This obviously put a slight crimp in the factory market share. Now though we see the greater emphasis on the semi-custom and full custom hunting and target shooting rifles while the factory offerings languish in the sale ads.
I have had my first .300 WSM reamer re-sharpened twice. That's a bunch of chambers cut. I decided to buy a back up, then I had to buy one more for throat/leade dimension changes and another for brass changes. In MY opinion, the .300 WSM is thriving. Long range shooters and hunters still flock to this cartridge for the performance and the broad range and availability of great bullets.
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