22 starter gun blanks?
This may sound stupid, but can you use nail gun blanks in a starter pistol?
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I am thinking...as long as they are the correct size...22 or 6mm.
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You guys, seem to forget, that unless there is an obstruction, or anything for a projectile, that there is hardly any pressure...perhaps 200-300 PSI at the most. Hardly enough to scratch a blank gun.
The dummy launcher's, for dog training use those SAME power load blanks, for making a blast noise, while at the same time propelling a canvas dummy, up to 100 yards or sometimes more.
If you use the low powered ones in your starter pistol, you will be fine. They are color coded red, yellow, and green, in descending order of power.
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Nail gun power loads may have too much energy for some blank guns- possibly causing rapid disassembly of the blank gun. Blanks are intended to make a noise. Power loads are intended to drive a nail an inch and half into concrete.
EDITED Many blank pistols have some form of bore obstruction/ restriction built in to prevent them from being used as an actual firearm. THAT was my concern.0 -
There are differant power level loads for nail guns. They are color coded, low power for shooting steel studs to pressure treated lumber might work. I wouldn't bother. 0 -
blank guns are not for nail gun loads 0 -
Most 22 calibre nail gun blanks come in a long rifle case configuration and may not fit the gun. If you find any that will, I would certainly start with the LOWEST loading available. (baby steps) 0 -
quote:Originally posted by XXCross
Most 22 calibre nail gun blanks come in a long rifle case configuration and may not fit the gun. If you find any that will, I would certainly start with the LOWEST loading available. (baby steps)
I would take that one step further and tie/tape it to something heavy and fire it with a string. Preferably while standing behind a substantial barricade.0 -
quote:Originally posted by fastcarsgofast
This may sound stupid, but can you use nail gun blanks in a starter pistol?
Can you use them SAFELY, is the question.
I think XX cross has this right.
Starter pistols typically take .22 SHORT blanks, and the power loads used in nail guns shouldn't fit, answering the question right there.
If you want to fire your starter pistol, regular .22 short starter blanks are cheap and readily available enough that I'm not sure why you'd want to take a chance this way.
Also, every starter/blank guns I've ever seen has been really weak. Most of these are made of zinc alloy (ie "pot metal"), and I wouldn't trust one to hold up to anything approaching actual functional firearm pressure.
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But with no projectile, would a nail gun blank even generate any significant pressure?
"Significant"?
The most powerful of the power loads are rated at over 1000fps, and I think they're actually more powerful than an ordinary .22LR.
I agree that a properly vented blank/starter pistol should not generate much operating pressure, but what happens if the thing gets partially clogged by lint or powder debris? It doesn't take much obstruction to cause a massive pressure spike, and the big problem here is that in a gun designed solely to handle low-pressure .22 short blanks, you're probably not working with much margin for safety.
Even if an ordinary .22 short blank cartridge only generates a few hundred PSI of pressure, I'd imagine a decent power-load could generate several times that. That might be enough to "grenade" a gun not designed to handle it, especially after multiple high pressure shots each fatiguing the metal a little bit.
Bottom line is that I don't know exactly what pressures these sorts of cartridges would generate in any given starter pistol nor do I know what pressures these guns are designed to handle. Both things are almost certainly going to vary based on model and design of starter gun, temperature, exact load in question, etc.
So not knowing for damn sure that this is a safe thing to try, and having some suspicion that it isn't, I fall back on NRA safety rule #7: "Use only the correct ammunition for your gun".0 -
But with no projectile, would a nail gun blank even generate any significant pressure? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by andrewsw16
But with no projectile, would a nail gun blank even generate any significant pressure?
http://www.dogsunlimited.com/i/1957/alfa-gun-dog-training-starter-pistol.htm
That, is the training gun I bought for training my dog. The barrel? doesn't even have a bore. Instead, there is a rather blunt cone on the rear situated very close to the cylinder which forces the gas/sound out around the cone. How much additional pressure that design would safely vent is anybody's WAG.0
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