Pedersen Device question
I'm interested in trying to find out the serial number of John Pedersen's personal device if he even had one. I have a presentation clip that was given to him by Oneida company which made the clips. I have the device that same with the clip which has a fairly low serial number compared to the other devices I've seen.
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we want to see pictures of your pedersen device[:p] 0 -
This is the only picture I currently have of the device and it's not a very good one. I can take a few more when I get home from work. 
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Wasn't the device itself an NFA item? Or is that just when it is in the 1903 Mark I?
EDIT: Sorry, i had thought that the Pedersen device made it into a full auto rifle firing that 30 caliber pistol round.0 -
Why would this be an NFA item with the rifle? It's not full auto when installed in the rifle. It just makes the Mark I rifle a semi auto instead of a bolt action. 0 -
cool .. i wonder why in this day know one has not made these kind of items...other than the AR15 types.. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by fordsix
cool .. i wonder why in this day know one has not made these kind of items...other than the AR15 types..
How to position a hi-cap magazine in the receiver so that it would function correctly would be a problem. The Springfields specifically made for the Pedersen Device had a rectangular hole machined in the left side of the receiver at a approximate 30 degree angle. Modern bolt action rifles would have to be redesigned for a semi-auto bolt mechanism, and a altered magazine well to accommodate a hi-cap magazine.0 -
I see a Pedersen device carrying case and magazine.
No device.
Much better.
Good catch.
The 1903 Mk I originally had a special bolt stop/cutoff to retain the device and a Pedersen sear with separate actuator for the device set into a slot. That is all I remember besides the left ejection port.
The one in the next room has, like nearly all such rifles, standard parts replacing the Pedersen specials; nothing left but the ejection port and markings.
There were prototypes for other rifles, 1917 and even Mosin Nagant, I think.0 -
Will be away from my books that cover the P.Device in some detail but what I recall is the magazine protruding to the right at about 2 o'clock. .32 ACP round (?) was pretty anemic, but don't recall if it was semi- or full auto. I do recall that most were destroyed and the only 2 I've ever seen were one in the Winchester Museum in New Haven (now largely in Cody?) and one at the Springfield Armory.
I recently sold a Mk. I, and to the best of my recollection the only difference between the Mk.I and the standard '03 was the ejection port (?) in the left side of the receiver.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Hawk Carse
I see a Pedersen device carrying case and magazine.
No device.
Is this better?0 -
Better?
Much.
Thanks.0 -
quote:Originally posted by RCrosby
Will be away from my books that cover the P.Device in some detail but what I recall is the magazine protruding to the right at about 2 o'clock. .32 ACP round (?) was pretty anemic, but don't recall if it was semi- or full auto. I do recall that most were destroyed and the only 2 I've ever seen were one in the Winchester Museum in New Haven (now largely in Cody?) and one at the Springfield Armory.
I recently sold a Mk. I, and to the best of my recollection the only difference between the Mk.I and the standard '03 was the ejection port (?) in the left side of the receiver.
The Mark I has I believe 3 or 4 different features the one that most people don't know about is the trigger sear isn't one solid piece. I'll take a picture of a real Mark I trigger sear tomorrow and post the picture for you. Majority of the Mark I's in circulation today do not have the trigger sear as well as one other key feature that's currently slipping my mind. I'll take a look at one of my Springfield books tomorrow as well and get back to you on the other features of an original Mark I.
I can only see 2 features that are visible by normal inspection one being the port in the receiver which all Mark I rifles and the other is this type of sear.0 -
I wish now that I'd paid more attention to the sear before selling the rifle. Actually it had been heavily modified including replacement of the trigger with a Timney unit. I may have the original sear and trigger. Would help if I knew exactly what I was looking for, so I'd appreciate any pics you could post.
One source I found suggested that surviving units likely measure in the dozens rather than the hundreds.
That's one hell of a piece of history you have there!0 -
$50,000 sitting there[^] feller on the auction side a while ago had a sealed box of ammo 300 rd 0
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