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Winchester model 101? pics added 3/15/12

marcus396
A buddy I work with asked me about this shotgun his grandfather won in a raffle years ago. turns out Winchester Japan101 12 gauge 2 3/4 chamber 30" rib barrel. SN K1339xx has it mfg 1970? not much info I can find, pretty sure this is not the field grade, too nice of wood, but without knowing chokes, is this a trap grade? seen some field grade with similar wood but most had 26" bbls,. It has been shot 5 times , barrels cleaned after each shot, his grandmother could not find box or instructions, but does have cleaning kit, soft case etc. Her son seems to think its worth 1300. I have not seen the double, but it looks beautiful, so I do not shoot trap but going to get it to add to my collection. what would todays market bring on a Japanese Winchester 101 mint no box or papers. thanks in advance marc
having problems unloading pics will try again later, host server was down thanks

thanks for replies, photobucket i cant upload pics, but she came back with offer 1000, no case no paperwork, i initially offered 850, but see case on GB auction side 145 It is more like her son trying to get the highest price according to what he seen in blue book, I said thats reference, markets change, economy etc, its worth what someones willing to pay. does not have silver receiver, they it would say pigeon grade on top, unless newer models have that, working on getting pics asap

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By marcus396 at 2012-03-15
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By marcus396 at 2012-03-15
finally got pics posted, after I seen this I was more than happy to offer 850 early 1970's in this condition i would be very happy as new owner, but I wont give into greed. IF it had everything as it left factory new, then maybe the 1000, but once someone gets in their head such and such gun is worth this much, then let them go out and try to get it. thanks for everyones feedback, I have some wiggle room, but not going much more. Beautiful piece, but I passed up other guns because it was more than I was willing to pay. thanks guys marc
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  • rufe-snow
    Quit a few show up on the on-line auctions. Don't pay any attention to the pipe dream asking prices, only what they actually sell for. This is the best way to discern what the current fair market value would be.


    EDIT #1, Aftermarket pad doesn't help resale value.
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  • rsnyder55
    Here is a link to a shop that specializes in 101's. You may want to compare your 101 to the ones he has listed for pricing.

    http://www.doublegunshop.com/showler.htm
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  • toad67
    If it is a trap gun then it is what is called a "field grade trap" gun. These guns have a blued receiver, fixed chokes (F/F or F/IM), 30 or 32 inch barrels. The stock can be either straight or Monte Carlo with above average wood (usually more figure than grain). They are a great gun and are pretty much bullet proof other than they have a tendency to break firing pins and have a little more cheek recoil than some guns, depending on the shooter. I've had a few over the years and really liked them. I would guess the value to be around $1,000 or so to the right person. If the receiver is silver then you have a pigeon or a diamond grade depending on the engraving.

    Todd
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  • rsnyder55
    If it is a Pigeon or Diamond Grade, then it should have a hard case.
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  • geeguy
    Your $850 offer is very reasonable. Field grade guns without screw in chokes go for $600-800 in very good condition (without box). Exception would be a "Waterfowl Model" that would have birds etched in the receiver.

    Areas differ, but I have seen several sell lately, 30" barrels, very good condition for $700. I own several 101's, love them, but wouldn't pay $1000 for a field grade with no extra's. Not a collector grade gun and you can buy a new SKB505 (almost the same gun)for a few hundred bucks more.

    My advise, pass at $1,000 unless you just "have to have it".
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  • rsnyder55
    quote:Originally posted by marcus396
    does not have silver receiver, they it would say pigeon grade on top, unless newer models have that, working on getting pics asap


    If it doesn't have a silver receiver, it's probably not a Pigeongrade. More likely a field grade. A pigeongrade has an engraved silver receiver. At least all mine do.

    I switched to Winchesters because the triggers are mechanical vs recoil operated like my Citoris. If one shell doesn't fire, you can fire the second barrel without having to switch barrels manually.
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  • toad67
    It is what's refered to as a "field grade trap gun".
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  • marcus396
    My co worker told me the good news today, his grandmother said 850 is fine, they did find the instructions in a plastic pouch, she is happy and I am happy, thanks for everyones input , very much appreciated.

    EDIT closed the deal, brought her home today, clean as it was new, top barrel is full bottom improved winchester recoil pad, soft gun case and mill run brite-bore shot gun cleaning it from the early 1970
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