Can I sell private sale as a C&R FFL?

Waco Waltz

February 04, 2012 10:32

I was almost out the door when I rememberd I needed to bring my record book. IN it it gives disposition example and it says either C&R FFL or form 4473

Does this mean I cannot make a private sale?

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  Waco Waltz

  February 04, 2012 10:34

  Hell where can I get a form 4473??

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  Bert H.

  February 04, 2012 10:38

  As long as you are selling the gun to a resident of your state, you do not need to sell it to a C&R or use a form 4473. You do need to log who you sold it to (Name, address, etc.).

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  mark christian

  February 04, 2012 10:51

  Collectors cannot use Form 4473, that form is restricted for use by dealers. Your A&D book "goes both ways" and can be used by collectors or dealers but no 4473 for you. Simply enter the buyers name and address or you can enter the transferees FFL number if you are selling to another collector or a dealer.

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  Waco Waltz

  February 04, 2012 14:08

  Thanks guys the sale went off without a hitch to a guy who owns a motorcycle shop.

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  slumlord44

  February 04, 2012 17:22

  When you sell a C&R gun to an individual you need a government photo ID like a drivers liscense. I record the liscense info in the book. You can sell a long gun to an out of state resident if the transaction takes place at the location on your C&R.

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  Waco Waltz

  February 04, 2012 18:45

  I got a copy of his DL.

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  slumlord44

  February 05, 2012 14:10

  That is exactly what you need. I would keep it with your C&R book and enter the number off of it in the book with his name and address.

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  mark christian

  February 05, 2012 14:25

  quote:Originally posted by slumlord44
  . You can sell a long gun to an out of state resident if the transaction takes place at the location on your C&R.
  
  
  That is true for FFL dealers but this does apply to holders of a Curio and Relic license. Sales by C&R holders to non licensees are limited to those who are residents of their home state.

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  nmyers

  February 05, 2012 15:35

  From ATF P5300.11, page 54:
  
  "Can a licensed collector sell a curio or relic shotgun or rifle to a nonlicensed resident of another State?
  Yes. A licensed collector is specifically authorized to sell a curio or relic shotgun or rifle to a nonlicensed resident of
  another State so long as 1) The purchaser meets with the licensee in person at the licensee's premises to accomplish the
  transfer, sale, and delivery of the rifle or shotgun; and 2) The sale, delivery, and receipt of the rifle or shotgun fully
  comply with the legal conditions of sale in both such States.
  [27 CFR 478.96 (c)(1)]"
  
  Neal

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  mark christian

  February 05, 2012 16:02

  I stand corrected and thank you Neal for setting me straight...As you often do [:I]

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