357/44 Magnum Carbine or Rifle
I was looking at a carbine or rifle in either 357 or 44 Magnum. Looking for reliability, meaning not likely to jam, and not costing an arm or a leg to purchase. I don't really care if it is a semi-auto, pump, lever or, even, a bolt action, so long as it is reasonably accurate, aka 2 inch groups at 50 yards with iron sights.
I would appreciate the comments and recommendations of those experts or experienced shooters out there on this topic.
I would appreciate the comments and recommendations of those experts or experienced shooters out there on this topic.
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Semi-autos rule. Get a Mechtech upper for a 10 mm Glock. Big draw-back very pricy, even if you have a 10 mm Glock receiver.
Best fairly inexpensive deal, to meet your criteria. Would be either a used Ruger or Rossi. Both have made .357 & .44 pistol caliber carbines of various kinds in the past. With a red dot 2" at 50 shouldn't be a problem.
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my older marlins shoot better than i can.. ie pre remington 0 -
I have a SRC 94 AE in 44 mag. I was a Christmas gift. I think it was used when I got it. The right cartridge guide was cracked in the screw hole, which resulted in a chunk of the carrier being busted off, then later it developed headspace issues. I fixed the headspace and the cartridge guide, the carrier is next.
It feeds a round nose cast 240 gr Saeco just fine and will hold 10 with one in the chamber even with the short carrier. Lyman 429421 feeds really good most of the time but it only holds 9 of them.
Good truck gun, short enough to maneuver inside the cab. Easily would meet your accuracy requirements. Know of several Elk harvested with similar model rifles. Makes a good companion for the 29's. My BIL has one in 357 for his 66's.0 -
Both my Marlin 1894,s {357+44mag} will do 2" at 100yds. They are the only way to go INMO [;)] 0 -
Choices, choices, choices...You are in luck as far as lots to choose from
Ruger made all 3 action styles...lever, semi-auto, and bolt.
They made the semi-auto in two different variations. The earlier one that had an internal magazine, and the later Deerfield, with a removable rotary magazine. These were both in just 44 Magnum.
They also made the 96, lever action, in just 44 Magnum, that I am aware of.
Lastly, they still make the 77/44, and 77/357, which are their bolt action 44, and 357 magnums respectively.
You can find a smattering of each I have listed on the auction side.
Next, we have the Marlin 1894. It is a great little lever gun, that can be had in both Blue, and Stainless. It is a side eject, and most of them are drilled and tapped for scope mounts. They are VERY accurate, and fast cycling. I would look for the "JM" marked ones, as they were made before they moved into the Remington plant in Illion...they are highly considered to be better quality, than the Illion produced models. They are made in both 357, and 44 Magnum.
Next on the list, is the Winchester licensed 1892, or the Browning 1892. Rest assured, it might say Winchester, but it is made in Japan, at the Miroku factory. They are of extremely high fit, finish, and overall high quality. I have a couple in other calibers, and they are smoother then a silk thong, on the backside of Mila Kunis. They are very strong and accurate as well.
Next for a slide/pump action, you have the Timberwolf, if you can find one. From memory, they were an Isreali made, very well built pump action rifle/carbine. They were very accurate, and fast cycling. They pop up from time to time on the auction side, and were made in both 357, and 44 Magnum. However, you might want to fasten a heavy anchor to your wallet.
Lets not forget about all of the single shots either. Ruger made a number 1, and number 3, both in limited number's. Then you have tge Browning/Winchester 1885's, along with the H&R, and the Thompson Center Contender, and Encore.
Lastly, there are the Rossi/Puma/ and other brands of the South American made 1892 Winchester. These are copy cats, and DO NOT bear the Winchester name. While they are strong, they lack some of the refinement that is afforded to the Miroku models, or the Marlin. Not sure how they shoot, as I have never owned one.
So there you have my spin on what is available.
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quote:Looking for reliability, meaning not likely to jam
While I love my '64 vintage Ruger 44 carbine, it is
1) Picky about food. Must be jacketed full house or nearly full house loads. Non-jacketed ammo will shave lead off into the gas system, causing lots of jams.
2) Tends to jam if dirty or not properly lubed.
3) Accurate to minute-of-pie-plate at 100 yards.
#1 is no big deal when buying factory ammo, but if you like to reload and use cast bullets for a 44 pistol you'll end up with 2 loads to worry about.
#2 is no big deal, clean it, and use a good lube especially if you'll be shooting in cold weather
#3 is probably me shooting irons with a large ghost ring in the back and a large bead up front. Just don't wanna put a scope or dot on it. 50 yards and under it is fine.
The bad part is that I wanted one of these since they stopped making them in the early 80s. Finally got one, let my wife shoot it once, and now she is convinced it is hers....0 -
I like my Rossi 92 357 lever action. Don't know about bench rest groups as I still haven't benched it. But it sure is fun for shooting stuff - pop bottles, beer cans, old TV's, rotting vegetables from the garden...
Probably one of the most fun to shoot guns I have:
More reading on the Rossi if you're interested:
http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6147820 -
quote:Originally posted by Manoa-Fisherman
I was looking at a carbine or rifle in either 357 or 44 Magnum. Looking for reliability, meaning not likely to jam, and not costing an arm or a leg to purchase. I don't really care if it is a semi-auto, pump, lever or, even, a bolt action, so long as it is reasonably accurate, aka 2 inch groups at 50 yards with iron sights.
I would appreciate the comments and recommendations of those experts or experienced shooters out there on this topic.
Get a 357 lever.
Highly reliable, good capacity, will share ammo with your revolver, and more so then most pistol calibers, .357 sizzles out of a carbine platform, yielding true rifle-like ballistics.0 -
Winchester (USRAC) Mod 94 AE Trapper in .45 Colt is a real hoot to shoot, and will hold 2" at 50 yrd. if I do my part. Not exactly what you asked for, but too much fun to pass up. 0 -
I really like my Rossi 92 in 44 Mag also. Mine is the stainless carbine with a 20" barrel. 0
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