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Fatstrat
Would a receiver for an old Stevens 520 pump shotgun be C&R eligible? It's over 50 years old. But not on the list.
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  • mark christian
    The list is not all inclusive and any firearm over fifty years old in it's original configuration is a Curio and Relic.
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  • Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by mark christian
    The list is not all inclusive and any firearm over fifty years old in it's original configuration is a Curio and Relic.

    Sorry, Mark, but I respectfully disagree. A receiver alone is not a complete firearm in its original configuration and is NOT C&R eligible.
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  • mark christian
    quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by mark christian
    The list is not all inclusive and any firearm over fifty years old in it's original configuration is a Curio and Relic.

    Sorry, Mark, but I respectfully disagree. A receiver alone is not a complete firearm in its original configuration and is NOT C&R eligible.



    If his 50+ year old 520 is nothing more than a receiver and was sold as such then it is not a Curio and Relic by definition.
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  • 11b6r
    The "list" does not cover a fraction of the guns that ARE C&R. Any firearm that the particular gun (not the model, but THAT gun) was made 50 or more years ago, and it is in its original configuration, is C&R.

    However, if it is not a complete firearm, ATF has ruled it is not eligible as a C&R, since they are derive the majority of their value from their collectability, and a receiver only is not collectible.
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  • babun
    So a 1942 Mauser missing the trigger is NOT a complete gun and is NOT C&R compliment. [;)]
    There is something called the INTENT of the law.
    The INTENT is/was not to allow an old receiver with it's serial number
    made in 1950 or so to be made into a MODERN firearm and sold as a C&R.
    All laws/rules have to be taken in their INTENT. Everyone here owns a screwdriver, use it to pry open a store front door at 2:00 am and you will get charged with "procession of burglary tools".
    Now run out and get rid of your screwdrivers.
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  • nmyers
    The law states that it's intent is to permit collectors to easily acquire collectible firearms anywhere in the country, without having to go through a dealer.

    ATF has issued opinions in ATF P5300.4 & ATF P5300.11, as well as the FFL Newsletter on the subject. Their opinion is that "no one collects parts", so only a complete firearm is considered to be a C&R. That doesn't seem unreasonable to me, especially since they have been liberal in permitting some alterations, such as refinishing & the addition of scopes.

    Neal
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  • mark christian
    quote:Originally posted by babun
    So a 1942 Mauser missing the trigger is NOT a complete gun and is NOT C&R compliment. [;)]
    There is something called the INTENT of the law.
    The INTENT is/was not to allow an old receiver with it's serial number
    made in 1950 or so to be made into a MODERN firearm and sold as a C&R.
    All laws/rules have to be taken in their INTENT. Everyone here owns a screwdriver, use it to pry open a store front door at 2:00 am and you will get charged with "procession of burglary tools".
    Now run out and get rid of your screwdrivers.



    Lets stick with the original question. There is no need to open a can of worms on the subject of Curio and Relics when all the man wanted to know about was shipping his Stevens 520.
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  • babun
    quote:Originally posted by mark christian
    quote:Originally posted by babun
    So a 1942 Mauser missing the trigger is NOT a complete gun and is NOT C&R compliment. [;)]
    There is something called the INTENT of the law.
    The INTENT is/was not to allow an old receiver with it's serial number
    made in 1950 or so to be made into a MODERN firearm and sold as a C&R.
    All laws/rules have to be taken in their INTENT. Everyone here owns a screwdriver, use it to pry open a store front door at 2:00 am and you will get charged with "procession of burglary tools".
    Now run out and get rid of your screwdrivers.



    Lets stick with the original question. There is no need to open a can of worms on the subject of Curio and Relics when all the man wanted to know about was shipping his Stevens 520.


    Sticking to the question, He got 2 answers, both from knowledgeable
    people, one said yes and one said no.
    My response was to show an example of the law.
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  • Spider7115
    He asked about shipping a receiver. The entire gun, yes. The receiver alone, no. That's the simple answer.
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  • Fatstrat
    Thanks guys.
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  • mark christian
    quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
    He asked about shipping a receiver. The entire gun, yes. The receiver alone, no. That's the simple answer.




    You were right, I missed the receiver only.

    My appologies to all concerned. This root canal has put me in a foul mood but is not an excuse for my short temper. I am sorry.
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