Hornady Load Data
Can someone help me out with newer Hornady load data?
9mm Luger.
124 Hornady FMJ Round Nose.
Winchester 231 powder.
Looking For starting load and max load.
9mm Luger.
124 Hornady FMJ Round Nose.
Winchester 231 powder.
Looking For starting load and max load.
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Can someone please give me the load data for the Hornady 200 XTP, with HP-38 powder and 231 for 45ACP
thanks in advance
Kona0 -
Is their website down? All their RL data is on lines 0 -
If Hornady data is online I can not find it. 0 -
http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp
Should be looking for Win 231 data ^^^^^^^^
Load type - pistol >>>>>> Cartridge - 9mm >>>>>>>> Get Data
About middle of page.
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quote:Originally posted by gesshots
[:D]http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp
Should be looking for Win 231 data ^^^^^^^^
About middle of page.
[;)]
No, I am looking for data out of a newer Hornady manual with Hornady bullets. I am well aware of the Hodgdon web site, thanks anyway.[;)]0 -
8th edition hornady handbook does not list your powder for 124 grain fmj which by the way has been discontinued 0 -
9th edition does not show that powder. Only Unique, Herco, Win AutoComp, VIHT N-350, Power Pistol, IMR SR-4756, HS-6, Blue Dot and Accurate #7
My Speers #14 Manual does not have that powder for that bullet either.0 -
only list win 231 for a 115 grain bullet not the 124. The loads for the 115 is 4.1 gn lowest to 4.7 max. That is for a fmj rn.This is the most current addition to the hornaday reloading manual. If you want powders and loads for the 124 fmj rn I can give you those. Try Unique. 4.0 lowest to 4.7 highest I would use the same loads for the 115 as I would for the 124, but that is just me.Oakie 0 -
quote:Originally posted by mrshorty
8th edition hornady handbook does not list your powder for 124 grain fmj which by the way has been discontinued
The FP is suspended, the RN ain't.0 -
Hornady doesn't post there loads for free online like the powder companies do.
You can email or call a Tech at Hornady & they will provide you with whatever they can to help you out.0 -
Lyman- 125gr JHP
Winchester 231-
Start- 3.7gr Vel. 1068fps
Max- 5.1 Vel. 1374fps.0 -
Load data is NOT bullet specific. Have you read a manual?
What a handloader does is check at least two sources for load data and starts at the lowest starting load.
Here is my compilation of loads:
Bullet Weight Powder Weight Velocity Note P.F. COL
J-all 125 231/HP38 3.2 901 Start 113
Sie JHP 125 231/HP38 3.9 900 Start 113 1.075
Sie J-all 125-130 231/HP38 3.9 900 Start 115 1.075-1.135
JHP 125 231/HP38 3.9 960 Start 120 1.075
Spr SP, GD-HP, TMJ 124 231/HP38 4.0 887 Start 110 1.120-1.135
FMJ 124 231/HP38 4.1 Start 0
FMJ 124 231/HP38 4.2 1005 Start 125
J-all 124 231/HP38 4.4 1008 Start 125
Sie FMJ 125 231/HP38 4.4 1009 Start 126 1.090
JHP 125 231/HP38 4.4 1043 Max 130 1.075
Spr SP, GD-HP, TMJ 124 231/HP38 4.5 998 Max 124 1.120-1.135
FMJ 124 231/HP38 4.5 1060 Max 131
JSP 125 231/HP38 4.6 1099 Max 137 1.120
Sie JHP 125 231/HP38 5.1 1100 Max 138 1.075
Sie J-all 125-130 231/HP38 5.1 1100 Max 140 1.075-1.135
JSP 125 231/HP38 5.1 1108 Max 139
FMJ 124 231/HP38 5.2 1100 Max 136 1.040
Hdy FMJ-FP 124 231/HP38 5.2 1120 Max 139 1.120
Hdy FMJ-FP 124 231/HP38 5.2 1145 Max 142 1.120
FMJ 125 231/HP38 5.4 1200 Max 150
JSP 125 231/HP38 5.6 1149 Max 144
(wish we could post Excel files)
First, take a couple of empty cases and make up two inert (no power or primer) dummy rounds. You will seat the bullets long and just remove the bell/flare at the case mouth such that the round drop in barrel (or case gage) easily (though they won't go all the way since the bullet should be too long. Next, seat the bullets in small increments until they fit in your magazine(s). Now, see if they feed and chamber. If not, keep seating the bullets slightly deeper until they do. This is your maximum effective COL for that particular bullet.
Next, I tend to load up 5-10 rounds at that COL and 5-10 at various progressively deeper seated COLs using the lowest starting load. You may find that the lowest starting load doesn't cycle you gun, but that is not your concern right now. Find the COL range that functions in your gun. If you have several guns and need to load for all of them, then work until they all feed that bullet reliably.
After you have a COL that works, then you can start working up the load. Keep notes on your findings.
For a FMJ-RN, I find a COL of 1.100" is the minimum I have used, 1.125" works almost universally in my guns, and 1.160" is often the most accurate.0 -
quote:Originally posted by RobOz
quote:Originally posted by gesshots
[:D]http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp
Should be looking for Win 231 data ^^^^^^^^
About middle of page.
[;)]
No, I am looking for data out of a newer Hornady manual with Hornady bullets. I am well aware of the Hodgdon web site, thanks anyway.[;)]
You will hardly ever find an exact component match when searching for load data.
It is perfectly acceptable and safe to use tested data of Same weight bullet of similar construction from different manufacturers. If it was Not safe and acceptable, bullet manufacturers like Montana Gold, Rainier, Berry, Armscore and even Remington would be hard pressed to sell their bullets as there is little to no data for these bullets.0 -
quote:Originally posted by noylj
Load data is NOT bullet specific. Have you read a manual?
What a handloader does is check at least two sources for load data and starts at the lowest starting load.
Here is my compilation of loads:
Bullet Weight Powder Weight Velocity Note P.F. COL
J-all 125 231/HP38 3.2 901 Start 113
Sie JHP 125 231/HP38 3.9 900 Start 113 1.075
Sie J-all 125-130 231/HP38 3.9 900 Start 115 1.075-1.135
JHP 125 231/HP38 3.9 960 Start 120 1.075
Spr SP, GD-HP, TMJ 124 231/HP38 4.0 887 Start 110 1.120-1.135
FMJ 124 231/HP38 4.1 Start 0
FMJ 124 231/HP38 4.2 1005 Start 125
J-all 124 231/HP38 4.4 1008 Start 125
Sie FMJ 125 231/HP38 4.4 1009 Start 126 1.090
JHP 125 231/HP38 4.4 1043 Max 130 1.075
Spr SP, GD-HP, TMJ 124 231/HP38 4.5 998 Max 124 1.120-1.135
FMJ 124 231/HP38 4.5 1060 Max 131
JSP 125 231/HP38 4.6 1099 Max 137 1.120
Sie JHP 125 231/HP38 5.1 1100 Max 138 1.075
Sie J-all 125-130 231/HP38 5.1 1100 Max 140 1.075-1.135
JSP 125 231/HP38 5.1 1108 Max 139
FMJ 124 231/HP38 5.2 1100 Max 136 1.040
Hdy FMJ-FP 124 231/HP38 5.2 1120 Max 139 1.120
Hdy FMJ-FP 124 231/HP38 5.2 1145 Max 142 1.120
FMJ 125 231/HP38 5.4 1200 Max 150
JSP 125 231/HP38 5.6 1149 Max 144
(wish we could post Excel files)
First, take a couple of empty cases and make up two inert (no power or primer) dummy rounds. You will seat the bullets long and just remove the bell/flare at the case mouth such that the round drop in barrel (or case gage) easily (though they won't go all the way since the bullet should be too long. Next, seat the bullets in small increments until they fit in your magazine(s). Now, see if they feed and chamber. If not, keep seating the bullets slightly deeper until they do. This is your maximum effective COL for that particular bullet.
Next, I tend to load up 5-10 rounds at that COL and 5-10 at various progressively deeper seated COLs using the lowest starting load. You may find that the lowest starting load doesn't cycle you gun, but that is not your concern right now. Find the COL range that functions in your gun. If you have several guns and need to load for all of them, then work until they all feed that bullet reliably.
After you have a COL that works, then you can start working up the load. Keep notes on your findings.
For a FMJ-RN, I find a COL of 1.100" is the minimum I have used, 1.125" works almost universally in my guns, and 1.160" is often the most accurate.
I'm not looking for a lesson in hand loading, been doing it for 25 years. I was looking for newer Hornady load data for a 124 grain fmj RN and Win 231. From what was posted Hornady no longer uses 231 with the 124 grain round nose. I just wanted to see how the data from my 4th edition manual compared with newer data.
Thanks for the effort.
Rob0 -
Well, why then are you requesting ONLY Hornady data and why if the manuals don't contain the data you seem to want?
Call Hornady and ask them. They might have some data.
After 40 years of reloading, I have no idea why Hornady load data should be gold standard.0 -
quote:Originally posted by noylj
Well, why then are you requesting ONLY Hornady data and why if the manuals don't contain the data you seem to want?
Call Hornady and ask them. They might have some data.
After 40 years of reloading, I have no idea why Hornady load data should be gold standard.
I wanted to know the difference between forth edition and a current edition. I thought my question was pretty straight forward. I simply asked for Hornady data with Hornady bullets. The Hornady bullets would be moot if the data came from a Hornady manual.0
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