Hornady suspends production of specific products
This is a link to a combined .pdf of the memo to Hornady dealers, on Hornady letterhead, dated 2 July 2013 and faxed to Cimino's Gun & Archery in Wisconsin, stating which of their products are going to be temporarily suspended (Hornady's emphasis, not mine).
Here is the list of products which Hornady is suspending manufacturing of for the year 2013. This is not rumor or tinfoil hat-type information but straight from Hornady:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/wbvgbbimkx2ytqd/Hornady+2013+Suspension+List.pdf
Hopefully this won't add fuel to the fire...
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I was hoping that the BS would be avoided but obviously I was mistaken...
Please read the cover letter a lot more carefully or at least for the first time so you can try to understand the concept of what they are trying to achieve.
This is a matter of trying to produce much larger quantities of a few bullets and loaded ammunition with far fewer changeovers and transitions which are time consuming and expensive. They intend to fill the largest needs first then fill in later with ones from the list.
Here is the short list (incomplete) of some of the bullets still intended for production:
22 cal
50 gr Vmax, 50 gr SP, 50 gr GMX, 52gr BTHP, 53gr Vmax, 53gr HP, 55gr Vmax, 55gr FMJ, 55gr SP, 68gr BTHP, 75gr BTHP
243 Cal
80gr GMX, 87gr Vmax, 95gr SST, 100gr BTSP, 105gr BTHP
25 Cal
90gr GMX, 117gr SST, 117gr BTSP
26 Cal
120gr Amax, 120 gr GMX, 123 gr Amax, 129 gr SST, 140 gr BTHP, 140 gr Amax, 140 gr SST
27 Cal
130 gr GMX, 130 gr SST, 130 gr SP, 140 gr SST
7mm
139 gr GMX, 139 gr SST, 139 gr BTSP, 139 gr SP, 154 gr SST, 162 gr SST, 162 gr BTSP
30 Cal
150 GMX, 150 gr SST, 150 gr FMJ, 150 gr SP, 165 gr GMX, 165 gr SST, 165 gr BTSP, 168 gr Amax, 168 gr BTHP, 178 gr Amax, 180 gr SST, 180 gr SP
Best.
Here is the list of products which Hornady is suspending manufacturing of for the year 2013. This is not rumor or tinfoil hat-type information but straight from Hornady:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/wbvgbbimkx2ytqd/Hornady+2013+Suspension+List.pdf
Hopefully this won't add fuel to the fire...
Best.
ADDED:
I was hoping that the BS would be avoided but obviously I was mistaken...
Please read the cover letter a lot more carefully or at least for the first time so you can try to understand the concept of what they are trying to achieve.
This is a matter of trying to produce much larger quantities of a few bullets and loaded ammunition with far fewer changeovers and transitions which are time consuming and expensive. They intend to fill the largest needs first then fill in later with ones from the list.
Here is the short list (incomplete) of some of the bullets still intended for production:
22 cal
50 gr Vmax, 50 gr SP, 50 gr GMX, 52gr BTHP, 53gr Vmax, 53gr HP, 55gr Vmax, 55gr FMJ, 55gr SP, 68gr BTHP, 75gr BTHP
243 Cal
80gr GMX, 87gr Vmax, 95gr SST, 100gr BTSP, 105gr BTHP
25 Cal
90gr GMX, 117gr SST, 117gr BTSP
26 Cal
120gr Amax, 120 gr GMX, 123 gr Amax, 129 gr SST, 140 gr BTHP, 140 gr Amax, 140 gr SST
27 Cal
130 gr GMX, 130 gr SST, 130 gr SP, 140 gr SST
7mm
139 gr GMX, 139 gr SST, 139 gr BTSP, 139 gr SP, 154 gr SST, 162 gr SST, 162 gr BTSP
30 Cal
150 GMX, 150 gr SST, 150 gr FMJ, 150 gr SP, 165 gr GMX, 165 gr SST, 165 gr BTSP, 168 gr Amax, 168 gr BTHP, 178 gr Amax, 180 gr SST, 180 gr SP
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I'm sure it will increase production by not having any down time caused by swapping tooling.
My 53 S&W gently weeps.
I read some dirt place is charging nearly a buck a round for 22 rimfire's!0 -
quote:Originally posted by charliemeyer007
I'm sure it will increase production by not having any down time caused by swapping tooling.
My 53 S&W gently weeps.
I read some dirt place is charging nearly a buck a round for 22 rimfire's!
My 22 Jet S&W weeps alongside yours.0 -
So if Hornady is suspending production of items on that list in order to devote their equipment to full production of other items, what's left to be produced? How about a list (which would be short) of what they ARE producing. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Ray B
So if Hornady is suspending production of items on that list in order to devote their equipment to full production of other items, what's left to be produced? How about a list (which would be short) of what they ARE producing.
No kidding, from the list.....what ARE they going to make.[V]
Looks like Sierra & Speer just might replace my Hornady SST/A-MAX line if I can't get any 7MM.0 -
back door gun control by the govt while paid for by the people 0 -
Making bullets for government contracts and causing prices to rise for average citizens.Yeah back door tactics to cause shortages.Obama is better than slick willy!
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Working for a company in manufacturing, I understand what they are doing. There's two in there I use a fair amount. Hopefully it doesn't last too long.
But the four bullets I use the most, by far, are still in production.0 -
Why would you stop producing 9mm? EVERYBODY is buying it as fast as it hits the shelves.....weird. 0 -
Guys...its a hoax. Its all over every gun forum, but nowhere to be found on Hornadys site, and no official word from them on facebook or anywhere else. If true, they would be posting this.
Ill bet it was started by a liberal to see if he could start another ammo buying/feeding frenzy so they could make fun of us and call us paranoid.0 -
Internet rumor....not on Hornadys website or facebook page. If that were true their facebook page would be blowing up. As to gov buying up, they sell less than 5% of their ammo to gov agencies..per them http://www.hornady.com/support/availability 0 -
the middle,
The original information trail started with Hornady to their distributors. This information was derived from a fax sent from a distributor to one of his retail clients. Hornady would do itself a dis-service by making a statement to the general public regarding this plan. Read the comments yourself. With no information to the public, we just assume that they are still behind.
So, if Hornady won't release the information to the public at large, why would they put any notice about this plan what-so-ever on their website. The notice on the website is dated February, the fax is from July 2, 2013.
I have added a short list of rifle bullets which are on the to be manufactured list. If someone needs pistol bullets they can do a correlation of the list above with the full list on Hornady's website.
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Here is the text of Steve's statement:
Product Availability Update
Hornady Makes Plans to Increase Production Volume
For over half a year, Hornady Manufacturing, along with the rest of the shooting sports industry, has experienced an unbelievable spike in demand. This dramatic increase in demand is unprecedented. As stated earlier this year in our Product Availability FAQ we have been continuously growing for a number of years; adding people, equipment and manufacturing space as rapidly as we can. We are producing and shipping product at record levels and are continually looking to grow and improve our ability to fulfill orders. But the current state of the industry is such that our increase in shipments this year is overshadowed by a 200% increase in demand.
One area that we have identified that will enable us to increase production, is the minimization of machinery downtime. The largest period of downtime our machines experience is during change over and retooling to convert a machine from manufacturing one bullet or cartridge to another. Under normal market conditions, we can keep the supply chain full by making popular items on a regular basis and keeping specialty or less-used products on a seasonal basis. However, with demand at record levels, it has become difficult to justify shutting down a machine to change it over to produce a product of less demand. Therefore, we are temporarily suspending some items in order to focus our efforts on the most popular and highest demand products and ship more total product.
We realize that many of the suspended items are going to disappoint some of our customers. We have painstakingly reviewed our order status and order history and unfortunately had to make some tough decisions. It wasn't easy, but we know that we will do a better job of servicing the industry as a whole by focusing on the items of highest demand.
We are not alone; this is effectively already happening throughout our industry, but is accomplished through selective manufacture with no notification to the industry. We are simply making every effort to be up-front about our plans to maximize production.
Again, this is only temporary. This is not a permanent suspension. We will continue to push as hard as we can to meet the demand of our industry and will produce our full catalog of items as soon as we can. Please know that nobody wants to produce more and get our product to into your hands more than we do.
And lastly, we feel compelled to address some of the conspiracy theories that we have seen posted. NO, this is not a conspiracy effort to shape the industry, nor is it controlled by the government. We are simply being forthright about our manufacturing plans and our efforts to supply MORE product to the very hungry shooting sports industry.
We truly appreciate your patience during this period of time. Thank you for your understanding.
The Team at Hornady0
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