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varian
is it legal for an ffl to accept a rifle from a private individual
(non ffl) for transfer to another individual. thanks.
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  • rufe-snow
    Yes. As long as he is a 01 FFL. He is not required to do so though. Many 01 FFL's will only accept transfers, through other FFL's.
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  • Cheechako
    Anyone else see the irony?? An FFL will not accept a firearm for transfer to an individual except from another FFL. How did he think the other FFL got the firearm, except from an individual?

    I'm not saying that an FFL should be required to accept any firearm from an individual for transfer to another individual, but sometimes the reasoning behind their refusal is puzzling to me.
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  • JohnnyBGood
    quote:Originally posted by Cheechako
    Anyone else see the irony?? An FFL will not accept a firearm for transfer to an individual except from another FFL. How did he think the other FFL got the firearm, except from an individual?

    I'm not saying that an FFL should be required to accept any firearm from an individual for transfer to another individual, but sometimes the reasoning behind their refusal is puzzling to me.



    My GUESS would be that with a face to face transaction the FFL dealer can confirm the identity of the person, such as matching the physical appearance of the individual with the photo and info on their drivers license.

    With a mail order transaction, it could be possible for a 14 year old to send a copy of his father's drivers license and the receiving FFL would not know.

    Like I said, just a GUESS. But some FFLs have chosen to be very cautious.

    Johnny
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  • perry shooter
    As a FFL holder you must check ID to both buy or sell . IF you accept a fire-arm with out it being IN PERSON you can't really say wher or who it came from.[V] However many dealers will accept a copy of a persons drivers li. If asked before hand. It is up to the buyer to clear all this up with HIS FFL dealer be fore purchase of an item
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  • varian
    thanks all. actually i did check with the store manager and he said it was ok. bought the gun on g.b. and went to the store today to notify them of the transaction and was told by two of the employees that they absolutely did not do this. manager not in today, so i was just wondering if it were legal.
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  • nmyers
    You were lucky.

    You are supposed to check with your local dealer BEFORE you bid for a firearm. As stated, not all are willing to accept delivery from a nonlicensee. Now you know.

    Neal
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  • varian
    i did check before, but now they are telling me it is not OKquote:Originally posted by nmyers
    You were lucky.

    You are supposed to check with your local dealer BEFORE you bid for a firearm. As stated, not all are willing to accept delivery from a nonlicensee. Now you know.

    Neal
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by varian
    i did check before, but now they are telling me it is not OK




    Sometime the type of firearm has a lot to do with it.

    A lot of folks who have gunstores get pissed, about guys buying modern guns off the net discount dealers. They feel that that they are being taken advantaged of. If the gun was a older out of production collectors item, it would be different.
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  • mark christian
    quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by varian
    i did check before, but now they are telling me it is not OK




    Sometime the type of firearm has a lot to do with it.

    A lot of folks who have gun stores get pissed, about guys buying modern guns off the net discount dealers. They feel that that they are being taken advantaged of. If the gun was a older out of production collectors item, it would be different.


    Talking with other dealers I have heard the same thing. I know a few who will transfer a Curio and Relic firearm for $10 or $15 but want $50 (or more) to transfer something modern. When I asked why they do a C&R for less the answer was very simple: Most buyers (guys, I know that it depends on the state so let's not go into NY, CA and NJ regs here) can get a Type 03 Curio and Relics FFL ($30 for three years) so the dealer keeps his transfer cost very low in order to prevent people from getting a C&R and bypassing him completely! On modern guns the only competition is another gun shop and most shops in the same area seem to have a gentlemen's agreement (can we say price fixing?) on transfer prices.
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  • varian
    manager called. he thought i was sending the firearm, good guy i have dealt with for years. he pointed me to another dealer who had no problem with the transfer. like i said, just wondering if was legal, its a shame people have to go thru this.
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