Blue Chip guns of the future
Seeing guns like Colt Pythons and Diamondbacks that sat in the counter in the 80s are bringing astronominal prices and Polytech Aks from the 80s that I could have bought for around $200 are bringing stupid money. What is your opinion on guns that are readily available and probably aren't selling now will be the hot item 20 years from now?
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Assuming that they can still be owned, bought, and sold in 20 years, any of them. apparently the cheaper and more frowned upon currently, the better. 0 -
Mosin Nagant 91/30 original,not rebuilt,not recrowned.No import marks,bring back,with papers ++.They are still cheap today have gone up 50% or more in the last 5 years.They made millions of them along with the A3 03 and the 1911.I can recall when they were $100-$150 at gun shows. 0 -
SAA with ivory and C or D engraved by a Master engraver. 0 -
A side by side double barrel .45 ACP 1911 style pistol. It will become the "gotta-have" for all legitimate collectors and shooters once it has proven itself in the Third Gulf War. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by mallorysdad
Seeing guns like Colt Pythons and Diamondbacks that sat in the counter in the 80s are bringing astronominal prices and Polytech Aks from the 80s that I could have bought for around $200 are bringing stupid money. What is your opinion on guns that are readily available and probably aren't selling now will be the hot item 20 years from now?
Except for maybe conventional low-end hunting arms (eg mass production domestic bolt action rifles) there are no guns that aren't selling off the shelves right now.
Good quality foreign made import military type semi-auto guns like the Polytech AK you mentioned (but numerous others) are only going to continue to appreciate with time because new imports are banned.
Hell, SKS rifles that were available by the crateload for under $90 each ten years ago are legitimately bringing over $300 today, and that's not even counting higher prices than that under the recent Obama panic.
No European ones are being made anymore, and almost all of the surplus supplies have dried up now. I think these are still being made in China, but new imports into the USA are banned, and probably won't be permitted any time soon. So those are still a good bet for future appreciation. And for what you actually get (ie a forged steel hardwood stock European made military grade semiauto), even $300 is good price.
Even though prices on some of these have gotten "crazy", pretty much any handgun with the word "Colt" on it will continue to appreciate over time. Ditto for CT-made High Standard .22 autos. This is even true to a lesser extent with pre-lock Smith and Wesson revolvers. I think prices on all of these have been going up faster than the rate of inflation for some time.
Supply on re-arsenalled Mosin M44 carbines hasn't entirely dried up (yet), but they're become scarcer. I paid $120 for mine maybe 5 years ago, when available, these are now selling for close to double that, and I think prices here are only going up, too. Ten years ago, these were under $100. Hell, even the made by the million crappy bore re-arsenalled 91-30s are going for $120+ now. . .ten years ago, they were what. . .$69? A crate of these is probably a pretty sound investment, assuming you have the funds to buy it and space to house it.
Russian capture WWII Nazi Mauser rifles. Even only a few years ago when these were under $300, I remember people scoffing that these were junk and had no collectors appeal. Guess what. . .the supplies have totally dried up now and I think you'd have a hard time finding one for under $500.
Along the lines of the last two things, I think pretty much ANY WWII military issue gun is going to become increasingly valuable/collectible with the passage of time, even rebuilds previously considered junk.0 -
Jap Arisaka's.
20 years ago if someone told me a type 99 would go for more than $150 mum or no mum I would have called you a liar.
I have seen them going for $350 at gun shows and I have seen people very interested in them. I know they are not all that bad but I remember when they were in buckets in pawn shops and sold as scrap.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Sam06
Jap Arisaka's.
20 years ago if someone told me a type 99 would go for more than $150 mum or no mum I would have called you a liar.
I have seen them going for $350 at gun shows and I have seen people very interested in them. I know they are not all that bad but I remember when they were in buckets in pawn shops and sold as scrap.
Obviously simple inflation is a factor here, but I think this is pretty much true of any true military use gun.
Right after the war in question, the guns are used surplus junk and nobody wants them. 50 years later, they're expensive collectible historical treasures.
Civil war military guns used to be "junk", now they're super-expensive. Ditto for WWI then WWII, and even Korean era guns (eg Garands). With the passage of time, lots of these guns get rusted, destroyed, "bubba'd"/sporterized, parted out, etc, so the number of these guns in their original condition only decreases every year.
After Vietnam, standard issue military weapons have all been select fire, so I think this trend has pretty much come to a stop. . .ironically only increasing the value of older military guns (ie total supply of civilian available US military surplus arms isn't increasing any more).
Still, I think there has to be some warehouse full of old military issue 1911s somewhere that "should" be in the hands of the US public. . .but that's certainly not going to happen under the current political administration.0 -
I started picking up every mumed Arisaka and Nambu in the eighties when I lived on the West Coast. They are where Nazi guns were in the late 70's. Letters From Iwo Jima made people aware.
In 25 years or so, the Tsarist Mosins will be skyhigh and the Soviet models not far behind.
A lot of people now collect the Finnish marked (SA) weapons as about anything was used by them. I had a 1915 Beretta so marked once.
Everything else either already has it's niche or will expand, make your pick and roll the die.[8D]0 -
The best advice I heard from an art collector in response to a question similar to yours about possible future appreciation of different works (I paraphrase):
"Just buy what you like. If it goes up in value, great; if not, you've had the pleasure of owning something you've enjoyed."0 -
"Just buy what you like. If it goes up in value, great; if not, you've had the pleasure of owning something you've enjoyed."
That being said, I think Tokarev pistols are a good deal. There are many variants to choose from at reasonable prices. They are simple, rugged, reliable, accurate, and fun to shoot. A 9mm barrel makes them economical to shoot.0
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