Rem 700 XCR Tac LR question
Hey guy's I finally made it out to shoot my 700 XCR Tac LR in .308. I haven't quite hit the sweet spot yet another 20-30 minutes at the range and it should be all sighted in. Anyways I ran into a few problems with a few of the rounds I was able push them into the chamber with the bolt, but when I went to close the bolt it wouldn't budge an inch, I didn't try to force it too hard because I didn't want to risk breaking the case or risk having the rifle go off. I included a picture of one of the rounds below, I have a couple ideas of what might be happening, but I would rather ask so I can be absolutely certain as to what's going on. Any info would be greatly appreciated!
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If that is reloaded ammo, it was shot in something with a dirty chamber and the extractor ripped the rim.
If it's new ammo their quality control is questionable.
Having shot 5 gallon buckets full of ball 7.62 in a 700 BDL I will tell you that it will shoot much better with good handloads.
added It could be remanufactured ammo. The bolt will not close because the headspace is wrong due to the lump.0 -
The round hasn't been fired, I can't get the bolt handle to close, it's pretty much stuck at a 90 degree angle, I didn't want to force it for fear of breaking something. When I retract the bolt that's what comes out. Obviously I initially didn't try to chamber it like that. Sorry I'm having a little brain fog at the moment, trying to think of the best way to describe the issue. 0 -
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The round hasn't been fired, I can't get the bolt handle to close, it's pretty much stuck at a 90 degree angle, I didn't want to force it for fear of breaking something. When I retract the bolt that's what comes out. Obviously I initially didn't try to chamber it like that. Sorry I'm having a little brain fog at the moment, trying to think of the best way to describe the issue.
I can tell you for a fact, that the casing, of the round in the photograph, has been fired at least once. They don't come NEW, with the rim torn like that. As Charlie says, that chunk of brass, will impede the chambering of that round. If you take a small file, and remove it, it will chamber like any other.
You should be more attentive about what ammunition you are purchasing, as that stuff, will definately not highlight your rifle's potential, while it possesses the potential to create other problems.
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Sorry I didn't explain it very well, that ammo is remanufactured, what I meant by it hadn't been fired was that I had yet to fire the round due to said issue. This happened with about 5/30 rounds I fired yesterday. The rim of the round wasn't like that when I attempted to chamber it initially. I could push the bolt all of the way forward, but I was unable to push the bolt handle down into the firing position, after trying it once I slid the bolt open the round ejected and the case rim was torn which I'm assuming was the result of my extractor. Although of the 25 rounds that fired normally none of them have extractor marks like that. 0 -
The rim of the casing, was indeed somewhat like that, but was not burnished, where you were able to see it, untill you tried to cam the bolt down. All of that previously enjoyed brass, has been processed thru most likely an automatic processor. That is a sure sign of being fired in a semi-auto/full auto, and having the rim partly mangled. Not every round fired in a semi-auto/full auto will deform like that, hence your 25 rounds of good casings.
Like I suggested, be a little more cautious of what you buy. Untill then, just inspect all the rims of those rounds carefully, before you put them in the rifles magazine or chamber. If you want to sit down for about 20 minutes and inspect them all, and trim that with a file, when you find it, that might be the best way.
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Also a possibility when they were reloaded that the correct full length resizeing die wasn't used. Certain semi/auto firearms require what is called a small base resizeing die to be used to resize their fired brass. If the ammo you were using weren't all cycled through one of these small base reloading dies, it might cause the problem you describe.
Years ago I had one of the original Gwinn Bushmasters, with the same problem. If you didn't resize the brass in a small base die, it wouldn't chamber.0
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