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  • rufe-snow
    It's one of the many guns being imported from Turkey nowadays. The only personal experience I've had, was with a Turkish copy of a Walther PP that I owned years ago.

    If you can't get any responses from our folks? Search GOOGLE and You Tube, you might find some reviews about them.
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  • mark christian
    The quality won't be anything like the Beretta Model 84, which it is copied after, but the pistols are decent for the money. The Turks have shotguns figured out and make some very fine scatter guns but their pistols have never left much of an impression on me. The first examples that I saw were the old MKE, Model TPK which are the PP copy the Rufe Snow already mentioned. These were somewhat rough but worked well enough and sold for (if I recall) $175 verses the Walther's $250 from Interams.
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  • Mgderf
    I am 2-1/2+ YEARS into a dispute with ATI over one of their T14 .410 shotguns.
    They quit dealing with Safir Arms (T14 maker) due to quality control issues.

    I just got "lucky" enough to get caught up in it.
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  • dcs shooters
    Taurus made the same pistol, the PT 58S.
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  • TRAP55
    quote:Originally posted by Mgderf
    I am 2-1/2+ YEARS into a dispute with ATI over one of their T14 .410 shotguns.
    They quit dealing with Safir Arms (T14 maker) due to quality control issues.

    I just got "lucky" enough to get caught up in it.

    Danny, unless it's Huglu made, this ^^^ is what you run into with Turk made firearms.
    Replacement parts are non-existent. The QC issues are from the practice in Turkey, of farming out different parts to dozens of contract shops. Just the screws alone, can have the same thread size, and a different pitch. On one shotgun, I found American Standard, European Metric, and Asian Metric threads. One screw can be brittle, and another soft as brass.
    I would get the Taurus if I had to choose between the two, at least with Taurus you'll have some kind of customer service that comes with it.
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  • drobs
    Why not buy the real thing in a used Beretta or Browning?
    http://www.GunBroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=331217191
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  • rsnyder55
    Unless you are really set on a 380, the size of these 380's are getting into 9mm range. You may want to look at some of the subcompacts being offered.
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