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Rustyjack
I know many sellers don't accept C&R licenses. I can't understand the reasons for that, that another question.
But what happens when a seller refuses a C&R for an ended auction
when the auction doesn't specify NO C&R...just says FFL required?
A C&R is a FFL. If all Federal laws apply, should they be required to accept a C&R. How should this affect feedback if the seller won't sell or the C%R license holder won't buy after finding out C&R is not accepted.
I know it's a good idea to ask first, but sometimes the auction may be ending too soon to receive an answer.
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  • Rustyjack
    The previous question assumes the gun is clearly C&R eligible.
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  • rufe-snow
    The seller of the item, calls the shots. It's up to the bidder to ascertain if the seller will or will not accept a C & R, prior to bidding.


    EDIT #1, That's a excellent idea about adding that "box" to the auction add. Letting the seller notify potential bidders, if he will accept a C & R for the firearm. It would go a long way toward resolving problems, prior to them occurring.
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  • nmyers
    There are 2 legitimate reasons for a seller to refuse to accept a C&R:
    1) The buyer lives in a state/locality whose laws prohibit the transaction or are unclear.
    2) The item is a C&R handgun (which cannot be mailed to a C&R licensee), but the seller is in a location not served by UPS or Fedex, & far from a UPS or Fedex hub.

    But, there are still dealers who just don't have the intellectual capacity to understand federal firearms laws. As with all other auction terms, the seller sets the terms & the buyer is required to read & follow them before bidding, as long as they comply with law & GB policy. If you can't comply with the terms, don't bid.

    Neal

    EDIT: Knifecollector said it more clearly than I did. A C&R is a type of FFL, but a C&R is NOT a dealers license. The regulations for dealers & collectors are not always the same.
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  • Rustyjack
    I'm not asking if the seller has a right to refuse a C&R. Clearly they do. It would be easier if they just listed the policy of NO C&R.

    I'm asking if they refuse a C&R on a eligible gun,that was not specified as NO C&R, can I refuse to complete the transaction without fear of negative feedback?

    I think GunBroker should add another box to their listing template....[]C&R accepted..yes or no
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  • Knifecollector
    If you bid ,won and refuse to pay, you stand a very good chance of receiving a negative feedback. If I'm interested a C+R eligible firearm and the seller doesn't specifically say they'll ship to a C + R licensee , I always ask before bidding.
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  • golferboy426
    If you got negative feedback in this case contacting customer support would clear it. Many sells don't know a C&R IS an FFL. You are attempting to legally complete the transaction with the C&R. The seller should set the exceptions if he intends to not process a legal transaction
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  • posh
    I use the advanced search feature for the collectable firearms category, then click on "Curio and Relic" in the left pane. If the gun is listed there I feel I'm covered.
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  • slumlord44
    My policy has always been that if C&R ia not spelled out in the listing and I plan on bidding I ask the seller if it is acceptable. Also keep the response until it is all done.
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  • CS8161
    You can contact support and request that the auction be cancelled. They will ask the seller and if both of you agree, they will nullify the whole transaction, no harm, no foul. But as the Captain said earlier, the support side of things is a little backed up right now.
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  • Recoil Rob
    quote:Originally posted by nmyers
    There are 2 legitimate reasons for a seller to refuse to accept a C&R:
    1) The buyer lives in a state/locality whose laws prohibit the transaction or are unclear.
    2) The item is a C&R handgun (which cannot be mailed to a C&R licensee), but the seller is in a location not served by UPS or Fedex, & far from a UPS or Fedex hub.




    I believe that only a licensed dealer can ship a handgun via USPS (they must sign a form and register) but they can ship to anyone, including C&R holders.
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  • He Dog
    A dealer can ship a handgun via USPS only if the handgun is not changing ownership. Thus a factory or gunsmith may return a repaired or reworked handgun to its owner without going through a transfer FFL, but a dealer may not send a handgun to a new owner via USPS. Though it does happen.


    Rustyjack, please do make that suggestion [] C&R yes or no to support by all means, great idea!
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