tokarev 7.62
I was thinking about buying one of the Tokarev pistols in 7.62x25 and I know that most are older Yugo/Polish/ Soviet makes in the TT series. Which one is the better quality and can they be worked on to smooth/lighten the trigger etc? I know they are a bigger/heavier handgun. thanks for your time.
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The early Soviet ones are probably the best since they don't have the stupid American safety hung on the side, using instead the original safety that Tokarev incorporated into the hammer.
As far as modifying anything, the mag release spring can be changed to make it work easier, but I would caution against screwing with something that works so well to begin with.
If you fix things that aren't broken, they soon will be.[:I]0 -
As far as external finish is concerned the Polish Tokes appear to be better then the others. As SkyKing notes though, they have had a aftermarket manual safety added. This is likely to have a negative effect on the original innards, as far as the trigger pull.
All the recently imported ones you have mentioned, have had the aftermarket safety added. I would check around before actually buying one to see if you can find a experienced gunsmith. Who can correct the problems with the safeties, negative affect on the trigger.0 -
Ok so it sounds like this safety that was required to be put on it is the issue. Otherwise the triggers tend to be ok..rough or better than most? Thanks for the info. 0 -
Back in the early 70's my dad acquired a rusky. I bought the lone box of 30 Mauser in town, Peters loading. Was an OK pistol.
In the 90's I bought a CZ 52 in 7.62 x 25. It was an OK pistol.0 -
quote:Originally posted by telohf
Ok so it sounds like this safety that was required to be put on it is the issue. Otherwise the triggers tend to be ok..rough or better than most? Thanks for the info.
They were all made as military pistols, light trigger pull wasn't a factor. I've owned a bunch of the Chinese and Russians over the years, 5/6 pounds what you probably would be looking at for a original one.
How easy it would be to lighten a original Toke trigger pull, discounting the after market safety would be another factor. It has a very unique enbloc hammer mechanism. Getting a knowledgeable U.S. gunsmith willing to take it apart to work on the trigger/sear/sear spring, might be problematical.0 -
Yugo M57 is pretty good. 9 round mag instead of 8. SOG has new production ones and surplus ones for sale. 0 -
Telohf, as Rufe noted, it's a fairly light trigger to begin with at six pounds. I actually like the North China models as I haven't been able to kill one and I do not baby them. When it gets rusty, I clean it. When it gets dirty, I scrub it. When I pull the trigger, it goes bang. EVERY TIME.
It's a single action and far from Murphy proof, but it's a helluva military weapon and the original .30 caliber loading is a zipper.
If you get one, you'll get used to it's quirks quickly as design-wise, it's built like a Timex watch, takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'.0 -
quote:Originally posted by jhimco
Yugo M57 is pretty good. 9 round mag instead of 8. SOG has new production ones and surplus ones for sale.
I have to agree. I had a Romanian and a Polish TT but sold them both. When I bought my M57 I had the trigger worked and put on a set of marblewood grip panels. It shoots great, has a safety like a 1911, and I can't see ever parting with it.0 -
The "import safety" on some of the early ones can be a real PITA, as they will roll over into the safe position when you're shooting. The ones in the later Pole and Romanian guns are okay. You can remove them with no effect on the guns function. The holes left are an eyesore, but have been welded and blued, or a blued plug epoxied in the hole.
The TT was built with the safety built into the hammer. First cocking notch locks the slide, trigger, and mag.
It's not really a "bigger/heavier handgun", in between a 1911 and a Colt .380. Much smaller and lighter that a CZ-52, and fits the hand well.
One thing to consider, the cheap milsurp ammo is history. A spam can of 1260rnds that sold for $80 two years ago is now pushing close to $400. S&B has commercial re-loadable, non corrosive for about $18 per 50.0 -
I've removed the safties on several of the Yugo Toks, and made a through-plug for the hole. The plugs are cut for sear clearance on the front, and for hammer-group housing clearance on top, The hammer group, when seated, locks the plug into the gun so that no welding or epoxying to stay on place, is needed. 0
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