Taurus Judge
Looking for opinions on who has shot these in either 3" or 6" barrel. Thanks ..
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I am interested in the revolver for home protection. Any comments on the Judge, good/bad. Does it handle and fire well? Any opinion is welcomed. Thank you. 0 -
Long bullet travel to engage the rifling isn't conductive to accuracy. 0 -
Years ago I cronographed a 9mm Luger cartridge fired in a 9 X 23 chamber. It lost something like 100 FPS over the same cartridge fired in a standard 9mm Luger barrel.
Because of the above, the loss in velocity of firing a 45 LC in a 3" chamber must be substantially more. Due to gas blow by over that 2".0 -
it is also a big heavy gun 0 -
The " Judge"has been judged many times by the "experts" and the posters on this forum.Search the prior threads and you'll see that it has been "convicted". 0 -
quote:Originally posted by greybeard100
what about the 2 inch jump of the bullet from the case to the barrel? Doesn't this pose a pressure loss around the bullet and somewhat random hitting the rifling (tilting) of the bullet? If this question was asked already, please excuse me. I was wondering what the community thought.
Yes, the extra long "free bore" (gap bullet has to jump through cylinder to hit forcing cone) does reduce both accuracy and muzzle velocity.
You probably do retain enough practical accuracy for self-defense at close distances (eg under 7 yards), but that's a really low bar, and personally, I want much higher performance from any wheelgun I'm going to shell out several hundred dollars for.
Here is a thread on this very topic:
http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=526357
There are also several other significant design problems with this gun that you can read about in some of my earlier posts (quoted/linked below).
On .454 in particular, that's a joke. The main point of that cartridge is hunting medium/large game or (maybe) long distance silhouette shooting. The realtively poor intrinsic accuracy of the judge platform basically defeats the whole purpose of the gun for these purposes.
Yes, I suppose you could use a Judge loaded with 454s for defense against bears, but its not clear to me what (if any) advantage you'll have with this platform over a more traditional revolver in 454 (or .460SW). In my opinion if you're going to spend the considerable money on a .454 and ammo, and if you're actually willing to lug that heavy piece of steel around with you, don't you want one that at least lets you use the full potential of the round?
IMO if .410 shotshells aren't adequate enough to kill a duck at 20 yards from an actual shotgun (and they're not), they're sure as hell aren't adequate for self defense against angry/intoxicated 220 lbs humans out of a significantly velocity-reduced 4 or 6" revolver barrel. If you just want something to bust snakes a .45LC (or .38/.357, 9mm luger, .44 magnum) shotshell will do the same thing out of a much nicer overall package.
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http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=501325
Originally posted by beantownshootah
quote:Originally posted by dfletcher
As popular as these things have become you'd think someone would make concealable, wood grips for the thing.
Supposedly, the reason why Hogue doesn't sell these is that the Taurus gun frames have too much variability in dimension for mass production wood grips to fit properly without being individually fitted.
Ouch.
quote:http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=561767
No, you're not the only one with this issue.
The gun has several significant design flaws, of which the extraction issue you mention is only one.
Other significant design issues include wrong-way thread on ejector rod, improperly secured set screw on ejector rod, long free-bore leading to poor accuracy with .45LC rounds, tendency of shotshell primers to back out of shells in normal use potentially locking up the guns cylinder (!!!!), and lousy patterning with shot.
See here:
http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=443252
http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=453054
http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=468165
http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=481949
http://forums.GunBroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5013250 -
The Judge, in any configuration is not a tartget weapon, and was never designed to be. The newest rendition was made on the Raging Bull frame, to handle the Casull.
That said, for the most part, they are a short range peersonal defense weapon, provided that they function as they should, which is hit or miss, with Taurus. They are actually, at best, used as a conversation piece, since their design limits them to doing neither, target or defense, well.
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