taurus judge
Looking for opinions on who has shot these in either 3" or 6" barrel. Thanks ..
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Thanks for all the information from MBsama,Tocamola,Don Mcmanus,TXLawdog, fordsix for the replies. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by arkbacks
I just got a Taurus Judge with a 6 inch barrel. My question is this, can I fire 45 colt ammo also. I know about 45 L/C and 410 shotgun shells.
No offense, but your question isn't completely clear? If your referring to the 45 Colt ACP ammo, used in the 1911 military automatics? No, it is rimless and wouldn't function in the Judge.
Photo off the net, see the difference between the rims of the 45 ACP and 45 Long Colt.
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quote:Originally posted by arkbacks
I just got a Taurus Judge with a 6 inch barrel. My question is this, can I fire 45 colt ammo also. I know about 45 L/C and 410 shotgun shells.
You CANNOT fire .45ACP (ie .45 auto) from this revolver.
The Smith and Wesson version of this gun will let you do that.0 -
quote:Originally posted by arkbacks
I just got a Taurus Judge with a 6 inch barrel. My question is this, can I fire 45 colt ammo also. I know about 45 L/C and 410 shotgun shells.
Sorry to confuse I meant the 45 colt used in the single action revolover, like the cowboy action stuff.0 -
There is only .45 Colt...there is no .45 "Long Colt", that is like calling a magazine a "clip". Common usage, but wrong terminology.
There is a .45 Schofield load, which is similar to the .45 Colt as the .38 Special/.357 Magnum relationship (Shorter case, can be used in longer chamber). This may be where the "long colt" got its start, I don't know.
You can shoot the cowboy .45 Colt loads in your Judge, and the decent defensive rounds as well. Stay away from the high-powered ones, I do not think that the Taurus was designed for the Buffalo Bore magnumish +P rounds.
You can't shoot .45 Auto Colt Pistol (ACP) in your Judge.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Riomouse911
There is a .45 Schofield load, which is similar to the .45 Colt as the .38 Special/.357 Magnum relationship (Shorter case, can be used in longer chamber). This may be where the "long colt" got its start, I don't know.
That's exactly right.
When the US Army issued .45 Colt revolvers, the term "long colt" was used colloquially to distinguish the longer .45 Colt rounds from the shorter .45 Schofield rounds that were also in wide military use at that time (mostly in Smith and Wesson revolvers). At one point the US military stopped ordering the "long" colt rounds, since the shorter ones could be used in a wider variety of revolvers. If you wanted the more powerful round, you had to look for the "long" Colt one.
There was also precedent there, because at the same time at the end of the 19th century there were two .38 Colt loads, .38 short Colt and .38 long Colt, legitimately named as such. I don't see it as much of a stretch to use the same naming scheme for the .45 round.
I believe the term persists now as a way of helping to distinguish the shorter .45 automatic round (ie .45 automatic COLT pistol) from the longer revolver round (ie .45 COLT, aka "long colt").
In my personal opinion, even though the term "long colt" was never the "official" name for the cartridge, the term has been in wide use for a full century, and has earned legitimacy just by common use. Pointing out that there is no "45 long colt" is something gun nuts like to do. . .but that's not going to make the widely used name go away.
Edit, for what its worth even SAAMI recognizes a cartridge it calls ".45 long colt".0 -
The term .45 'Long' Colt probably came into use with the advent of the .45 Ball Cartridge M1877. This was a cartridge of Schofield length with a Colt-diameter rim, which eliminated the rim interference of the Schofield round in some of the Colt SAA's. It was intended as a truly universal cartridge for the SAA's and the Schofields, and Frankford Arsenal loaded only the M1877 round from that point, on. Commercial makers continued to produce the original-length .45 Colt. 0
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