.41 mag Your Thoughs
Friend has a Taurus Titanium Tracker in .41 mag for sale.
What are your thoughts on the Gun and this caliber. How does it stack up in relation to .357 and .44 mag.
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What are your thoughts on the Gun and this caliber. How does it stack up in relation to .357 and .44 mag.
Thanks
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More performance than a .357, somewhat less than a .44 mag. I like the .41 mag and use it in a Blackhawk single action.
Downside is cost, the .41 mag is somewhat of an orphan caliber that is harder to find and expensive once you do. I reload so it's not an issue for me but might be if you don't reload.
In fact, if you don't reload I would probably recommend you pass this up and go to a .44 mag instead.
Unless the price and deal are irresistable, in which case it doesn't matter !
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Thanks for all the info. Very Helpful. Now comes the $$$$ dance. 0 -
The 41magnum is ballistically superior to the 44magnum, but as stated earlier, finding ammunition can be a problem. In all the stores I frequent, I rarely, if ever, see 41mag ammunition stocked 0 -
For what it is worth, the 41, and 44 Magnum are pretty much interchangable, with a couple exceptions. One is big mean, toothy critters, with big claws. Never hurts to err on the side of bullet weight there.
The other is cost and availability of ammunition. I have some 41's in my collection, and I do reload. I have acquired a couple thousand Starline brass, and several hundred different style bullets for loading. Like the 44 Magnum, H-110 is my powder of choice, for the 41 Remington Magnum.
As for the Taurus, I would not even consider that name. Yes, they have a limited lifetime warranty, but it does no good with the gun in the shop most of the time. My 41's are Ruger. either Black Hawk, Super Blackhawk, or Redhawk. They are all built like tanks.
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quote:Originally posted by snipe2
Friend has a Taurus Titanium Tracker in .41 mag for sale.
What are your thoughts on the Gun and this caliber. How does it stack up in relation to .357 and .44 mag.
Thanks
Caliber is good, as mentioned, ballistically just a little less than .44 magnum. Most similar current round would probably be 10mm automatic.
Best use of this round is for hunting, but it could also be used for personal defense, defense/hunting crossover (which IMO, is its best use), or silhouette shooting.
Biggest problem here, as mentioned, is that this is a "niche" round. You're not going to find ammo for it, in the usual "big box" or sporting goods stores, and if you do find ammo on the shelf of a specialized gun store, its likely to be more expensive than .44 magnum.
For these reasons, unless you reload or just get an absolutely fantastic deal on the gun, you're probably better off with a .44 magnum. Anything you can do with a .41 you can do with a .44, though the converse is not true.
You can always use .44 special loads in your .44 magnum, if you want lower power rounds. So far as I know there is no commercially loaded ".41 special" equivalent (though you could easily create your own, if you reload).
On Taurus revolvers. . .they're not the best. Quality control can be variable, depending on when the gun was manufactured, and a few of their revolvers have design defects. If you get a good individual gun, it should work fine, but in general, Smith and Wesson and Ruger are superior, and preferable brands.
On the other hand, the market resale value of Taurus guns reflects their less status, so prices on these are quite a bit lower than comparable American-built guns. Not sure it says much, but Taurus is probably the cheapest way to get "into" a .41 magnum.
Before you buy one, consider that Taurus guns aren't as attractive in resale. . .its not just that you'll get less money, but also fewer buyers will be willing to buy one. Plus of course, market for .41 magnum is limited too, again, potentially making selling this gun later a bit harder than others if you decide you don't like it for some reason (which, bluntly, is fairly probable. . .why is your friend selling his?).
One other thing, .41 magnum is no "slouch" round. I suspect recoil with a Titanium version of this will be "brisk". If you have the ability to do so, I'd suggest putting a box of ammo through the gun before you buy, both to test the recoil, but also, of course the gun function itself.
Edit, responding to Armilite, below
quote:I pretty much agree with Beantown but I will add this the .41 mag. while generating nearly as much power as a .44 Mag. has less recoil.
Well, the laws of physics say that power and recoil are going to be proportionate. If you don't "need" the full power of a .44 magnum (and realistically most handgun hunter probably don't), a .41 is a perfectly good alternative.
On the other hand, if you want less recoil from your .44 magnum, you can always load it down. If you don't reload, you can substitute .44 special, or even .44 Russian, each of which will approximate .45ACP ballistics. Again, so far as I know there is no commercial equivalent to a ".41 special" so if you don't reload for that round, you're basically stuck with full power rounds in somewhat limited selection.
quote:If you handload there are safe loads that actually exceed the power of some .44 Mag. loads.
Again, true. There is some overlap at the top power range of the .41 magnum, and its an impressive round in its own right. But if you handload, you can also load a .44 magnum DOWN to .41 magnum power if you like. Alternatively, you can load it UP to power levels way beyond what a .41 can do.
The question is really only, what do you want to do with this gun? In this particular case, this is a somewhat unusual combo of a less popular large bore magnum round built on a lightweight frame. That's already a "niche" package. IMO something like a titanium .41 magnum could make a reasonable choice as a hiking/"mountain" gun that's intended for personal defense against 2 AND 4 legged things, and maybe opportunity hunting. But for just about every other application, I think a different gun would be a better choice.0 -
I pretty much agree with Beantown but I will add this the .41 mag. while generating nearly as much power as a .44 Mag. has less recoil.
If you handload there are safe loads that actually exceed the power of some .44 Mag. loads.
It is a niche cartridge but a nice one to have.
Not sure of the Taurus it might be okay, but I like the Smith & Wesson model 657.0 -
I've never understood the need for a 41 magnum specially a Taurus, if you need a manageable magnum revolver a Smith 29 or 629 is a much better way to go, IMO. 0 -
Agree with bean... the main "feature" of a titanium .41 magnum will be hard recoil. 0 -
Your .41 mag post
Without the details, go with a Ruger Blackhawk 44 or 41. Your wallet will thank you and bullseye's will disapear from your target shooting.
Consider reloading given the current political climate. Straight sided ammo is very easy to load.
Long ago my Dad gave me a Lee 44mag reloader....the 'all hands & mallet' version. They probably go for $ 20 now, but they do a good job if you want to wade into reloading on a trial basis.0 -
I have a Taurus 2.5" barreled "Total Titanium" in 41 Magnum. The barrel is ported, it weighs 23 oz. The ported barrel makes a world of difference. The gun does recoil a fair amount, but the feel is different - kind of like wrapping your hand around an M-80, it's more of a stable shock than a big push to the rear.
I have no issues with recoil and routinely use 3" 29s, 657s and short barreled 454s along with a whole host of large bore rifle calibers in a T/C Encore.0 -
I've heard good things from pig hunters and others and regret missing an early 4 3/4 Blackhawk in 41Mag.
Do give ammo supply some thought it being an unpopular caliber.
Check bullet costs and figure on handloading. Once you have 100 or so pieces of brass you're good for a lifetime of shooting and reloading. Casting your own increases flexibility to make light or heavy loads cheaply.0
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