Model 70 Winchester 250/3000
I'v e got a Mdl 70 in 250/3000, first year of production, sitting at my brother's house. It is unmessed with, not drilled and tapped. It is showing some honest wear, but still in good condition. All the barrel stampings and such are correct. I got it from the original owner. What is the best way to get a value for something like this. Does first year add anything. Pretty hard to find examples for sale to commpare. Thanks
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Your discription is a little sparse. Are you talking about a pre 64 model 70? There where 2,750 pre 64 model 70s manufactured, if it is truely untoughed, in original configureation, it does have collector value. Condition is everything. Good, close, clear picture in natural light if possible is the only way we can place value. There is a sticky at the top of the page explaining how to post pictures.
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If you are located in Australia as per your profile, this would have a baring on it's value. There might be a substantial difference in its FMV, between the US and OZ?
Quality photos would be nice as the Cap suggested.
EDIT #1, 80% isn't collector quality on this side of the pond. If it's richeous as far as factory originality is concerned, might be considered a candidate for restoration though.
EDIT #2, I personally doubt that big buck collectors, have changed that much over the years, as far as condition is concerned. 80% would reflect quite substantial wear and use on a 70+? year old rifle. Granted it's a rare caliber as far as Model 70's are concerned. Just don't see any of the big buck guys springing that kind of money for a shooter grade rifle, without having it professionally restored.
EDIT #3, Don't get me wrong Burt, your entitled to your opinion. I just don't see a shooter grade 70, sight unscene, bringing in that kind of money. No matter how rare the caliber. Don't mean to criticize the OP regarding the rifle, but estimating the amount of wear and factory originality is quite a subjective matter. To knock out a FMV without actually seeing it, is quite difficult to say the least, IMHO.0 -
Sorry for that It is pre-64, If I remember correctly 1939 production, or what ever year the 250/3000 model first came out. I've been looking for something to compare it to. Just to get a rough idea of it's worth. It's probably 80% on blue and wood. 0 -
The gun is in Wisconsin. I'm probably conservitive on the estimate of finish. I'll work on some photos. 0 -
Here in the U.S. collector market, an 80% condition pre-war Model 70 250/3000 that is 100% factory original is worth approximately $3500. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
EDIT #1, 80% isn't collector quality on this side of the pond. If it's richeous as far as factory originality is concerned, might be considered a candidate for restoration though.
Rufe... You are very sadly mistaken in this regard, and a factory original collectable Winchester in 80% graded condition should never be "restored".
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quote:EDIT #2, I personally doubt that big buck collectors, have changed that much over the years, as far as condition is concerned. 80% would reflect quite substantial wear and use on a 70+? year old rifle. Granted it's a rare caliber as far as Model 70's are concerned. Just don't see any of the big buck guys springing that kind of money for a shooter grade rifle, without having it professionally restored
Well, that just shows that you are not "in the know" about the current Winchester collector market. None of the serious collectors that I know would ever consider having that rifle "restored"... the cost to have it done could never be recovered, and it would actually decrease the value of the rifle.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Fazer1
Sorry for that It is pre-64, If I remember correctly 1939 production, or what ever year the 250/3000 model first came out. I've been looking for something to compare it to. Just to get a rough idea of it's worth. It's probably 80% on blue and wood.
Chip,
Send me an email with the serial number, and I will pin the date of manufacture down to the month & year it was made.0 -
I bought one in 2004. Standard grade #66476. I paid 1700 for it. 0 -
If it is truely an 80% unmolested gun, Berts pretty close. There just arn't that many 250s around, thier as scarce as honest politicians.
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