Smith Mod 19

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December 05, 2012 23:53

Morning folks!
I have a 19-4 and one of the chambers
is very slightly out of timing.
This was brought to my attention yesterday.
I had been wondering why there was so much
powder fouling in the "scallops" (sp)
of the cylinder.
When I get to that chamber,I just
barely touch it and you can hear the cylinder stop
seat properly.
Should I get rid of it or is there an easy fix?
I'm not to fond of the handgun any way because when I
fire it the rear of the trigger guard whacks my knuckle.

Thanks-Ron

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  perry shooter

  December 06, 2012 01:49

  Sounds like the STAR/extractor on the rear of the cylinder is worn on one notch . This works in conjunction with the HAND. It can be fixed but is NOT a DIY , fix it needs to go to a PISTOL SMITH .

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  rong

  December 06, 2012 02:12

  Thanks Karl

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  CS8161

  December 06, 2012 04:06

  You better pack that up and send it to me, I will dispose of it properly for you.[;)]

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  beantownshootah

  December 06, 2012 05:16

  Obviously, your handgun is dangerous and needs to be disposed of immediately. If you send it to me, I'll scrap it for parts, along with all the other horrible model 19s I have:
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  OK, seriously, what Perry shooter said; a good gunsmith should be able to fix your problem. You might even consider sending it back to Smith to do this. The fix won't be trivial, but it will still be cheaper than replacing the revolver.
  
  And needless to say, I like these guns a "little bit". The ergonomics, and smoothness of action make them one of the best service type revolvers ever. Back in the day, every gun like your 19-4 came out of the factory hand-tuned by a gunsmith. They're never going to build them like that again.
  
  In terms of the ergonomic problem you're having with the triggerguard, have you tried different grips?
  
  The Hogue grips, in particular, are cheap, readily available, and fill in almost all of the space behind the triggerguard. I keep a set on my go-to home defense gun, and they're excellent. I think they may well solve your problem.

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  Riomouse911

  December 06, 2012 05:47

  rong,
  
  The M-19 is about as good as a .357 revolver gets. I've had 2 (Still have the 2.5", sold the 4") and they have been great guns.
  
  I'd say, get it fixed. Then look at the grips. I use Hogues on my L-frame 686+, and Pachmayr compacs on the 2.5" M-19.
  
  [:)]

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  machine gun moran

  December 06, 2012 07:00

  The problem can be cured by judicious peening on the appropriate lug of the extractor star. But unless you have experience at this, I would recommend that you have a pistolsmith do it.
  
  I don't rework a particular lug more than once, and then I prefer to replace the extractor.
  
  S&W hands are a lot harder than the extractor stars they engage, and wear on the star's lugs, is normal. There will also be some wear on the slot that the hand rides in, but this should be minimal. It takes an awful lot to open up a hand slot, just from normal use.
  
  The problem you describe usually becomes evident first when the gun is slow-cocked, because rapid cocking will result in cylinder inertia bringing the cylinder around to index.

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  rong

  December 06, 2012 10:04

  Yes, I could have recited the
  alphabet while I was being shown the
  bad timing.
  I shoot this gun every week,no apparent
  issues and more accurate than me

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  Layne12gun

  December 08, 2012 18:52

  Send you gun to Kent Singletary www.kscustom.com He specializes in old Smith Wesson's
  and will re-time the gun for you .. 602-526-6836

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  rong

  December 08, 2012 23:51

  The problem you describe usually becomes evident first when the gun is slow-cocked, because rapid cocking will result in cylinder inertia bringing the cylinder around to index.
  
  Very slow.
  When I cock it in normal time,there is no
  evidence (that I can detect) of a timing issue.

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  dfletcher

  December 09, 2012 17:28

  Oversized hands are available from Brownells. Unlike Colt's they are not expensive and pretty easy to fit. A softening of the top, inner leading edge allows the hand to roll smoothly past and set next to the ratchet.

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