purchasing a rifle out of state in person.
I am an Ohio resident legal to purchase handguns, shotguns and rifles, in Ohio. IF I go to a Michigan FFl for rifle purchase, does 1, ffl background check apply,? and 2, does FFL seller have to ship rifle to Ohio FFL for me to take possession? thanks.
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From what I can see
1) yes
2) no
http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/state-laws/michigan.aspx0 -
What I understand (not a dealer)
Adjoining state residents may purchase a long gun from a dealer, and take delivery from same at that time.
This is NOT true of handguns (must ship to in-state dealer near purchaser). If your home state does NOT share a boarder with the dealers state, than they must ship to a dealer in your home state.
From OH, you can purchase in MI, IN, KY, PA and WV0 -
The feds have dropped the contiguous state requirement, for long guns only, from the Federal gun law regs.
Certain states won't allow their residents to purchase long guns out of state, irregardless that the feds are now OK with it. California and Idaho are the ones I'm aware of.0 -
Federal law requires that such a purchase be legal in both your home state & the state of purchase. Your greatest challenge will be to find a MI dealer who is willing to sell to an OH resident. If you live in Akron, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus, Dayton, or Toledo, all of which have their own gun laws, he's going to have to read the local laws & figure out if he can legally sell that particular rifle to you. I suspect that most MI dealers will not want to go to that much trouble.
Neal
EDIT: The only legal way to buy a long gun from a dealer in another state & take immediate possession is by appearing in front of that dealer at his licensed premises or at a gun show in that dealer's state. Anything else, & the dealer risks losing his license, or worse.0 -
I'm from OH. I was at a gun show in KY and wanted to buy a gun from a dealer from WI. He couldn't do it as WI has a law that you can't sell even a long gun to someone out of state. So he transferred it to me through another dealer at the show who was, IIRC, from MI. So I think MI is ok with it, but an indivdidual dealer may not want to go through the hassle.
Edit for what Herschel said: It was an M1 carbine, so it qualified under that proviso. However, that raises a further question- when you have a local dealer to a transfer, if even a licensee isn't allowed to sell to another licensee in another state, how is that legal? And what, therefore, is the POINT of an FFL?0 -
jonk, Here is some information relative to the situation you described above. From Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide dated 2005. Page 183, Question (F12). Question: May licensed dealers sell firearms at gun shows?
Answer: Generally, a licensee may sell firearms at a gun show located only in the same State as that specified on the seller's license. However, a licensee may sell curio or relic firearms to another licensee at any location.
[18 U.S.C. 923(j), 27 CFR 478.100]0 -
Once upon a time I purchased a rifle from Scheels in Omaha, NE and I live in Indiana. I have also purchased ones in Iowa from Scheels and Gander Mountain. These were face-to-face transactions, I was passing through. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by us55840
Some sporting goods companies, such as Scheels and maybe Cabelas (not sure) amd perhaps some dealers have a policy of no out of state sales...the firearm must be shipped to a FFL in your home state. That is a "company" policy that I have encountered.
I know Cabelas in Reno will (or did last year) sell to out of state residents, but they make arrangements with an FFL in the state you live in to ship the firearm. In this case it was to CA.0
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