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  • llama
    Desire is up to you, mostly based on ergonomics. I prefer metric...

    MOST Century inch guns are inch kits put on metric receivers. Check your mag cut to determine if it is really inch or metric.

    A true inch gun can use metric mags (mostly... they wobble somewhat) but not vice versa.

    A true inch gun doesn't have a last shot bolt hold open - but that can be added.

    Adjusting the gas is different based on bolt hold open (metric) or not (inch).


    EDIT since there are 9 replies already...

    You posted a pic of the back side of the mag - post a pic of the front side, that will tell us if it is an inch or metric mag...

    But I'm still betting on typical Century frankenfal with metric receiver (maybe imbel or argy - is it marked "made in canada" ?) and an inch kit applied.
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  • mark christian
    Probably 80% of the FAL parts out there are metric pattern and that makes metric rifles a bit more desirable, although by no means superior to inch pattern rifles.
    These are the two types of FAL magazines: Inch on the left and metric on the right:
    FALL1A1mags.jpg
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  • roswellnative
    What exactly is the item that is metric or in? Receiver?
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  • mark christian
    The receiver as well as the parts are manufactured either to metric standards or inch standards and just like nuts and bolts; the fit might be very close but in most cases it just won't interchange. Uppers and lowers will fit at teh hinge pin but not many of the other parts will interchange. I ripped this off from another site but it should give you an idea of what will fit and what won't:


    interchangeable parts - inch versus metric

    muzzle device
    NO - threads are same pitch but turn opposite ways

    barrel
    YES - although inch requires a breeching washer

    gas block
    YES - although metric port meets barrel perpendicular, whereas inch meets at angle, also inch block is taller

    gas knob
    NO

    gas knob retaining clip/spring
    NO

    gas plug
    NO

    gas piston
    YES

    gas piston spring
    YES

    gas tube retaining collar (the part that screws into the receiver)
    YES (small issue here - but generally the answer is yes)

    front sight
    NO

    front sight plate
    (metric only)

    front sight plate spring
    (metric only)

    front sight retaining scrw
    (inch only)

    handguards
    YES

    handguard screw
    SOMETIMES - depending on source and length

    handguard ring
    YES

    front swivel
    YES

    upper receiver
    YES - (more or less), depending on what you hang on it

    lower receiver
    YES, if simply installing a complete lower from one type onto another

    ejector block
    YES

    ejector
    YES

    bolt
    YES

    extractor
    NO unless it is already installed on a bolt

    extractor plunger
    ???

    extractor spring
    ??? I think so

    bolt carrier
    YES

    firing pin
    generally NO -- except the discussions of one-piece and two piece firing pins, and the differing lengths and configurations, give me a brain cramp
    Most metric is one-piece, and most inch is two-piece. So that settles the issue for general comparisons

    firing pin spring
    ??? - don't think so - although it may be if a two-piece firing pin is used in a metric rifle.

    firing pin retaining pin
    YES

    rat tail
    YES

    rat tail spring
    YES

    rat tail rivet
    YES

    bolt hold-open
    metric fits inch but not vice-versa (inch is fatter)

    bolt hold open retaining screw
    YES

    magazine catch
    YES, but be careful of spring length (inch is longer)

    magazine catch spring
    NO - unless you switch the magazine catch at the same time - inch is longer

    rear sight
    YES - but heights differ (inch is taller)

    rear sight screws
    YES

    top cover
    metric will work on inch - but not vice-versa without bubbafication

    trigger axis-pin
    ??? I think so

    hammer axis-pin
    ??? I think so

    hammer
    NO

    trigger
    NO

    sear
    NO

    hammer spring
    NO

    hammer plunger
    NO

    trigger plunger
    NO

    sear plunger
    NO (inch doesn't even have a sear plunger)

    sear spring
    NO

    trigger return spring
    NO

    hammer spring
    NO (inch plunger and spring are hermetically-sealed assembly)

    hammer spring shroud
    NO

    locking plate
    NO (inch plate is unitized with lower)

    selector
    metric fits inch, but inch won't fit metric without modification

    recoil springs
    YES (both)

    recoil spring plunger
    YES

    recoil spring tube
    YES

    recoil spring retaining nut
    YES

    locking shoulder
    YES

    locking body
    YES

    locking body plunger
    ??? I think so

    locking lever
    yes

    locking body spring
    yes

    locking lever retaining screw
    ??? I think so

    buttstock
    NO

    buttplate
    NO

    buttplate retaining screw
    sometimes sorta (depends on configuration and length)

    rear swivel
    NO

    pistol grip
    NO

    pistol grip retaining nut
    NO (inch has a screw)

    pistol grip retaining scrw
    NO (metric has a nut)

    trigger return plunger retaining plate
    (inch only)

    pistol grip "popsicle stick"
    (inch only)

    trigger guard
    NO

    magazine
    metric usually fits inch, but not vice versa without modification

    magazine followers
    disagreement over this issue - most say NO

    magazine springs
    disagreement over this issue - most say NO

    magazine floorplate
    NO
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  • roswellnative
    8182871874_1f13ff46d4_b.jpg

    This is the mag

    The handle is smooth on top - inch
    The bolt carrier has sand cuts - inch
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  • roswellnative
    8183052664_0b356bd53b_m.jpg

    8183014885_d1839c957e_m.jpg

    8183053084_1b99d6f297_m.jpg

    So what do I have, an inch gun on a metric receiver?

    Thanks in advance..
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  • mark christian
    Looks like that is what you have.
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  • roswellnative
    So I order metric mags? Or either?
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  • roswellnative
    my mags do not look like that metric example?
    but they are stamped out not welded
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  • Oso2142
    Last time I checked, Century was building commonwealth FALs/L1A1's.

    So, AFAIK, that would make your FAL/L1A1 an inch gun.

    Does your bolt carrier have sand-cuts? I think that was a British thing for desert warfare. However, it's been a long time, I wouldn't swear by it. Perhaps the metric guns have sand-cuts, as well?

    Anyway, the first time I shot a FAL, was love at first shot. [:D]
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