AR-15 Newbie build
Looking for information on this. My goal was to save money but that doesnt really look like it. Is it better to find everything from scratch and go that route or buy complete parts? Anybody have a parts list or something to go off, kind of lost.
What I want and using for. I plan on using this for hunting mainly deer,probably putting a 4 power scope on it.. So I was thinking 308 or 6.8spc, any thoughts. I dont know much about the 6.8spc, so how is it hunting, availability and cost of ammo. I do not need match grade, top notch. Just looking for a good all around set up.
What I want and using for. I plan on using this for hunting mainly deer,probably putting a 4 power scope on it.. So I was thinking 308 or 6.8spc, any thoughts. I dont know much about the 6.8spc, so how is it hunting, availability and cost of ammo. I do not need match grade, top notch. Just looking for a good all around set up.
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The .308 is an AR10 item. The 6.8 will fit the AR 15 platform. With consideration of your somewhat uninformed situation, I'd suggest your"build" consist of getting a complete lower and complete upper and pushing the pins.
The 6.8 is definitely a step up from the .223 for deer sized game but is still fairly low on the deer cartridge totem pole.0 -
First thing you might consider, is to acquire books and retailers catalogs that specifically address the assembling of AR's.
I recommend the following book, and 2 on-line retailers catalogs.
1. "The AR-15 Complete Assembly Guide" by Walt Kuleck & Clint Mckee.
2. Brownells, AR-15/M -16 parts catalog
3. Midway USA, AR 15 parts catalog
The catalogs are free just contact the retailer and request them to send you the AR-15 parts catalog.
EDIT #1, You might consider the 300 Blackout also. Guy was demoing a AR Blackout firing the 210 grain heavy bullet, on one of the net video channels. When that heavy bullet hit the water jug targets, there was just devastation. Apparently the heavy bullet starts key holing, right after impact. You hit a deer or anything else COM, with one of those key holing heavy bullets, it would drop like a rock.0 -
any other options out there. I do not like the idea of a 223 and deer hunting. It looks like the 6.8 is similar to the 243 which i know a lot people use. What about the 6.5?? Not looking for an exotic round, something that I can buy at just about any store. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
First thing you might consider, is to acquire books and retailers catalogs that specifically address the assembling of AR's.
I recommend the following book, and 2 on-line retailers catalogs.
1. "The AR-15 Complete Assembly Guide" by Walt Kuleck & Clint Mckee.
2. Brownells, AR-15/M -16 parts catalog
3. Midway USA, AR 15 parts catalog
The catalogs are free just contact the retailer and request them to send you the AR-15 parts catalog.
will do. I was in the Army so putting one together should not be to hard. I more concerned about getting the right parts. I assume though most things are interchangable0 -
The 308 build it yourself is out of the question as there aren't enough manufacturers selling parts at any discount what so ever. There is one manufacturer that you could use to build a 308 rifle how ever the quality just isn't there and they have questionable customer service as well. Go the 6.8 route that's a whole different ball game. The 6.8 is a great deer cartridge and similar to a 7.62x39. Ammo can be had in FMJ mode for just over $15 a box. Better hunting ammo will run you from about $18-$25 a box. The ammo is a lot more plentiful as of late then a few years ago. Remington, Hornady, Sellier & Bennot and Silver State Armory load ammo for it. It would be best to buy some ammo save the brass and then reload it. 0 -
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The 308 build it yourself is out of the question as there aren't enough manufacturers selling parts at any discount what so ever. There is one manufacturer that you could use to build a 308 rifle how ever the quality just isn't there and they have questionable customer service as well. Go the 6.8 route that's a whole different ball game. The 6.8 is a great deer cartridge and similar to a 7.62x39. Ammo can be had in FMJ mode for just over $15 a box. Better hunting ammo will run you from about $18-$25 a box. The ammo is a lot more plentiful as of late then a few years ago. Remington, Hornady, Sellier & Bennot and Silver State Armory load ammo for it. It would be best to buy some ammo save the brass and then reload it.
thanks yeah I am leaning toward a 6.8 as more parts are interchangable. I was thinking 243 but those seem to be hard to find. You can build an ar 10 from what I have seen you just have to do some mix and matching, which i dont have a problem with0 -
so I can get a complete or build a 6.8 upper and 5.56 lower and I should be fine. 0 -
My 5th AR I decided to build myself. I handpicked the stripped lower, stripped upper, barrel, match trigger, etc. I purchased the specialized tools to perform the build and did it myself. If you want the ability to build more of these, it's not a bad way to go. If this will be a one and done, buy a lower to your liking (lowers can be assembled without special tools) and then buy as many completed uppers as you like. I think you will come out better in the long run. 0 -
The lower's are a cinch to build. The upper's are too, for the guys who have the tools, and knowledge to do it, but are not for beginner's.
The 308 must go on an AR-10 platform, and the 6.8 is OK for deer out to 200-300 yards, with good shot placement. For that matter, so is the 223, with proper bullet construction. I took a buck with my RRA 16" Varmint at a measured 152 yards 2 weeks ago today, using loads consisting of the 62 grain Barnes TSX, on top of 25 grains of R-15. Quarting toward me, I put it on the onside shoulder, and destroyed the shoulder, and lungs. He run about 20 yards.
I would just get a whole gun in your case, RRA, DPMS, Armalite, Stag, are all good. They will have a 1 in 7 to 1 in 9 twist rate, which will like heavier bullets. Study your whole gun, then build another if you wish. For pricing of one to build, versus one put together...the sum of the parts are a lot greater than the complete gun...that is if you can find all of the parts in these OBAMA crazed days.
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Like I said I was in the military so construction is not a huge problem but from what I have been seeing and my goals buying complete upper and lowers would be the best route.
My goal is to own something thats light weight portable. I mainly will hunt deer withing 200m, so the 6.8 round does not bother me as it has the same ballistics as a 243 or close. People even use a 223 although the 223s velocity is a bit more, but even still the effect range of a 223 is 400m for humans, and deer can not be much different in size.
I am not wanting a match grade weapon or something where I can attach a bunch of high priced cool guy stuff and show off to friends. Look for functional.
If I go with a 5.56 lower what uppers will match to that I assume, 6.8, 6.5, 223, and 243. I want to leave my options open although I dont really see the point in having a a few of those as they are all virtually the same.0
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