Safe Carry Question
As a member of the generation that was raised being told (and obeying) to never carry an automatic loaded with one in the chamber due to accidental discharge and I actually know people that have had accidents of this sorts, I recently got into possession a Kel-Tec 380, I like the pistol but am still "leery" of carring in my pocket READY to go, question is more modern auto's SAFE for pocket carry? The Kel-Tec is double action thus no external hammer. Thanks for sharing any first hand experience [;)]
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It's up to you. My take is that with all the liability lawyers out after the gun makers, they have to make a safe product, or be put out of business.
Personally I've pocket carried in a holster either a Keltec P 11 or a Glock G 27 for the last 12 years, with a round chambered and haven't lost any sleep over it.0 -
My Ruger P95 has been carried with a loaded chamber for 15 years +/- and so far, has not fired unless I pulled the trigger.
Prior to that, I carried a HiPower cocked and locked for a number of years w/o experiencing an unintended discharge. Up to this point, the only firearms I've personally experienced discharging w/o trigger action were bolt action rifles that had been tampered with.0 -
The Keltec 380 was designed to be carried safely with one in the chamber. There are two main reasons this is a SAFE carry. One, this is a double action-only mechanism. The hammer is down, not cocked, between shots. Therefore the hammer cannot "accidentally" fall and discharge a round, because it is ALREADY down. Two, the trigger pull is long and heavy. You cannot accidentally fire the Keltec 380. It takes a conscious effort to pull that trigger.
My wife carries hers religiously and practices often. A full magazine and a loaded chamber is THE way to carry a Keltec 380. It was designed that way and it is safe that way. [:)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by andrewsw16
The Keltec 380 was designed to be carried safely with one in the chamber. There are two main reasons this is a SAFE carry. One, this is a double action-only mechanism. The hammer is down, not cocked, between shots. Therefore the hammer cannot "accidentally" fall and discharge a round, because it is ALREADY down. Two, the trigger pull is long and heavy. You cannot accidentally fire the Keltec 380. It takes a conscious effort to pull that trigger.
My wife carries hers religiously and practices often. A full magazine and a loaded chamber is THE way to carry a Keltec 380. It was designed that way and it is safe that way. [:)]
Thanks, I see your point on the hammer position/trigger pull and that makes alot of sense, I feel better/safer now after your reply.[;)] Me and my worthless worn out jewels thank you [:D]0 -
Some autos I carry with the safety on (Galesi,Ortgies, striker fired), some I carry with it off (PPk, P.38, hammer fired), but they ALL have a round up the spout. 0 -
Just curious...what generation was raised being told not to carry a semi with one in the chamber? 0 -
the movie generation... makes good flick to pull the slide before shooting bad guy..[;)] 0 -
junkballer,
I carry a gun now that is very much like your Kelt-tec. One in the chamber is the best way to have it ready to go and yet still safe. Mine is a DA/SA. Some don't like two trigger pulls, but I like the ability to make it a hair trigger and have better accuracy. Yet still have that 'ready-to-go' when I need it status.
FWIW, if you think about it, the way to carry a 1911 is 'locked-and-cocked' in a holster that won't let the hammer release. In that situation you also have the beavertail safety as well as the standard safety which is in an optimal position to take off when needed. I also have to say, that didn't always sit well with me. But, I got used to it.0 -
quote:Originally posted by fordsix
the movie generation... makes good flick to pull the slide before shooting bad guy..[;)]
Which reminds me. I repeatedly see TV LEO's pull their pistol, then rack the slide prior to "going into action". They must not have any LE consultants showing them how it's done in real life (round already in the chamber) or they just don't care, I suspect it's the later.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Junkballer
quote:Originally posted by andrewsw16
The Keltec 380 was designed to be carried safely with one in the chamber. There are two main reasons this is a SAFE carry. One, this is a double action-only mechanism. The hammer is down, not cocked, between shots. Therefore the hammer cannot "accidentally" fall and discharge a round, because it is ALREADY down. Two, the trigger pull is long and heavy. You cannot accidentally fire the Keltec 380. It takes a conscious effort to pull that trigger.
My wife carries hers religiously and practices often. A full magazine and a loaded chamber is THE way to carry a Keltec 380. It was designed that way and it is safe that way. [:)]
Thanks, I see your point on the hammer position/trigger pull and that makes alot of sense, I feel better/safer now after your reply.[;)] Me and my worthless worn out jewels thank you [:D]
I couldn't put it any better. I carry a P-3AT loaded in my back pocket holster all the time, and have done so since I got my CCW.0
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