J.P. Sauer&Sohn,Suhl 7.65 Value?
Hey guys,I have the above pistol,which seems to be in pretty good shape,and would like to know what I could get for it.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Mark.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Mark.
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Which pistol?
J.P. Sauer made three or four models that would fit that description.
There is no such thing as NRA "Pretty Good Shape."
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I have no idea on how to post pics on this site;I see no 'manage attachments'
There is a # on the back,right side,219062.
On the left side of the slide,it says Joh.Munts-Amsterdam,then there is a tiny pic of what looks like a person,then it says CAL.7.65.
On the left grip it has two large letter 'S',with a smaller letter 'U'.
On the bottom of the mag,it says S&S.Cal.7.65.
On the right,back side of the slide,it says Patent.
Thats all I can see.
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With the Dutch retailers marking your pistol is probably a Model 1930. It should be similar to the one in this photo, that I got off the net.
Supposedly some of the 1930 Sauer's were used by either the police or military in the Netherlands?
There is a "STICKY" on top of our page with instructions for posting photos.
EDIT #1, Because we have reached are 10 post limit, likely the mods will close this thread. Just open another topic with a subject line of, "J.P. Sauer & Sohn, Suhl 7.65 Value?" #2.
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I suggest you look on the auction Side under pistols and see if you Can Find a SAUER pistol that looks like yours. Then come back here and tell is what auction number that is . Other then that with out pictures . could be between $100.00 -$1000 with the information You have given us so far your [?] is sort of like I have a Canoe made by Oldtown and it floats .What is it worth [?][?][?] Help us help you. 0 -
There is a series of these guns made starting with the model 1913. The 1913 model had four types (I through IV) and culminating with the aforementioned model of 1930 Behorden model that was quite popular with several Gendarmeries, particularly the Norwegian police, as I recall. The rarest of the lot is the 1913 type one english export with top slide legend written in english (JP Sauer and Son vs. JP Sauer und Sohn)and has a secondary push button safety on the left side of the frame in front of the grip panel below the standard safety. Decent 1930 models are selling in the $300 range...the 1913 type I english export in similar condition will go nearly 2k....other than mine I know of only 8 in the US. Condition is important, like any other firearm, so keep that in mind. As mentioned, the Dutch imported a fair number, but I believe most were commercial; some I'm sure were taken into the police forces there, but with their close proximity to Belgium, and the Belgians penchant for firearms production, I believe most of their gendarmerie handguns were Peipers etc...Best Regards, Bill 0 -
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Thanks guys for taking the time.
The pistol I have looks like the one pictured above.
I`ll see if I can post pics tonite.
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quote:Originally posted by 1KYDSTR
There is a series of these guns made starting with the model 1913. The 1913 model had four types (I through IV) and culminating with the aforementioned model of 1930 Behorden model that was quite popular with several Gendarmeries, particularly the Norwegian police, as I recall. The rarest of the lot is the 1913 type one english export with top slide legend written in english (JP Sauer and Son vs. JP Sauer und Sohn)and has a secondary push button safety on the left side of the frame in front of the grip panel below the standard safety. Decent 1930 models are selling in the $300 range...the 1913 type I english export in similar condition will go nearly 2k....other than mine I know of only 8 in the US. Condition is important, like any other firearm, so keep that in mind. As mentioned, the Dutch imported a fair number, but I believe most were commercial; some I'm sure were taken into the police forces there, but with their close proximity to Belgium, and the Belgians penchant for firearms production, I believe most of their gendarmerie handguns were Peipers etc...Best Regards, Bill
Don't mean to hi-jack BDHABT's topic! But I believe probably the most uncommon Sauer Model 1913 pistols were the ones specifically made for export to the U.S. Due to U.S. law all manufactured products have to be marked with the country of origin. Because of this some of the pre World War I import Sauer .32's are marked Prussia.
I only ran across one years ago. The Prussia marking had me totally stumped at the time?0 -
quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
quote:Originally posted by 1KYDSTR
There is a series of these guns made starting with the model 1913. The 1913 model had four types (I through IV) and culminating with the aforementioned model of 1930 Behorden model that was quite popular with several Gendarmeries, particularly the Norwegian police, as I recall. The rarest of the lot is the 1913 type one english export with top slide legend written in english (JP Sauer and Son vs. JP Sauer und Sohn)and has a secondary push button safety on the left side of the frame in front of the grip panel below the standard safety. Decent 1930 models are selling in the $300 range...the 1913 type I english export in similar condition will go nearly 2k....other than mine I know of only 8 in the US. Condition is important, like any other firearm, so keep that in mind. As mentioned, the Dutch imported a fair number, but I believe most were commercial; some I'm sure were taken into the police forces there, but with their close proximity to Belgium, and the Belgians penchant for firearms production, I believe most of their gendarmerie handguns were Peipers etc...Best Regards, Bill
Don't mean to hi-jack BDHABT's topic! But I believe probably the most uncommon Sauer Model 1913 pistols were the ones specifically made for export to the U.S. Due to U.S. law all manufactured products have to be marked with the country of origin. Because of this some of the pre World War I import Sauer .32's are marked Prussia.
I only ran across one years ago. The Prussia marking had me totally stumped at the time?
Here's one I just sold;
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Egads! Looks a lot like mine, but a little hogher serial #. Looks like either demand has tanked, the market really IS as bad as I feared or somebody got a smokin hot deal off of you SkyKing! Beautiful pistol, by the way. I believe mine is marked "JP Sauer and Son. Suhl, Prussia". OK...going downstairs to check...yep, thats it, serial 1383, all matching except the firing pin. Several crown N proofs..."cal 7.65" on rear right slide..., "Sauers Patent", Pat'd May. 20. 1912. So it IS early english export I assume. 0
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