M1 Carbine Defaced Receiver Front Top ??
A few years ago I purchased an Underwood carbine at an estate auction. The widow said her husband had it for years and got it in payment for some work he had done. I found the carbine (# 1,372,xxx) to be 100% original / as issued, however a previous owner had ground off the US and the M1 from the receiver. Does anyone have any idea what would possess someone to do that?
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Just a guess here, but many m1 's were "given" to other countries after
WW2. It could have been one that a small country used and didn't want to have the "US" and other marks on it while they had it. Does it have any "import" marks on the barrel, such as "BLUE SKY"?0 -
It may have said "M2", which would make it an NFA "firearm". 0 -
Some Underwood (& other make) M1 carbines were arsenal converted to select fire. When that was done, the "1" was sometimes overstamped "/2". Any carbine receiver stamped "M2" or "/2" is considered by ATF to be an NFA item; possession of an unregistered NFA item makes you eligible for 5 years in a federal prison.
I'm not saying this is what happened to your carbine, but.....
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quote:Originally posted by nmyers
Some Underwood (& other make) M1 carbines were arsenal converted to select fire.
I'm not saying this is what happened to your carbine, but.....
Neal
The flip sight carbine is 100% original with no import marks, no M2 cut in stock and high wood stock is correct for the early serial #. All parts correct for M1 in early serial number. stock and metal show very little usage.0 -
I would take Neal's advice to heart. IMHO, the only reason that the receiver on a original carbine would have been defaced, is if it had "M2" markings. You have requested our opinions in this matter, it's up to you what you do of them.
EDIT #1, There are ways of recovering defaced markings used by the various high tech government crime labs. In view of this, posting photos of the carbine in question, on a open to all internet forum might not have been prudent.0 -
I should have put this pic in on the first post. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
I would take Neal's advice to heart. You have requested our opinions in this matter, it's up to you what you do of them.
I appreciate the opinions given so far and have only had this posted a few hours. I am hoping there may be others with ideas so I'll probably leave it posted for a while. Thanks again.0 -
Hello many military weapons were brought back unauthorized starting with the civil war. MANY 1911 and 1911A1 pistols had U.S.Goverment Property Ground off in an attempt to pass them off as a civilian model . However the serial number on all military models were different from civilian models They never made an INLAND civilian model CARBINE but just maybe The person just wanted to remove the U.S. in hopes of passing it off as a none military item,
edit 1 all this became a MOOT point as soon as the military stars selling any item on the surplus market like through the DCM/CMP0 -
quote:Originally posted by perry shooter
Hello many military weapons were brought back unauthorized starting with the civil war. MANY 1911 and 1911A1 pistols had U.S.Goverment Property Ground off in an attempt to pass them off as a civilian model . However the serial number on all military models were different from civilian models They never made an INLAND civilian model CARBINE but just maybe The person just wanted to remove the U.S. in hopes of passing it off as a none military item,
Thanks Perry Shooter. I have heard that also about the 1911s & A1s.
I had a friend years ago that brought his A1 back and it bothered him so much he dropped it in the river when he was out fishing. I think he thought after all those years he might get caught and punished. .0 -
The gun has an M1 slide, bolt, and stock. Any that were converted to M2 had these components changed, as well. Not that it couldn't be an M2 conversion in extensive disguise - but just take it out of the wood and look. 0
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