factory Winchester 9mm wit sealed primers?

golferboy426

January 10, 2012 11:10

I see a lot of ammo most of it not originally purchased by me. I know weatherby sealed most if not all their ammo. I've got a box of older but not too old Win. 9mm silvertip in the white box with the red and orange highlights and the rider. There has a red sealer on the primers. All ammo is a silvertip and no evidence of a reload. So do you think Win sealed them or the original owner or do you think they are reloads despite no die marks and totally consistent shells.

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  beantownshootah

  January 10, 2012 11:47

  I don't know the answer, but I can make an educated guess.
  
  What I do know is that "Winchester White Box" is contracted by Winchester to spec.
  
  Depending on what caliber, and when the box is from, the contents of a box may come from any number of manufacturers including from the USA, from Israel, from the Czech Republic (ie S&B ammo), and/or other places.
  
  So it certainly seems possible to me that at one point in the past Winchester boxed up someone else's sealed primer loads and sold them under its own label. Sealed primers are also used in military and police loads, so maybe these are a police overrun from somewhere.
  
  It also seems implausible to me that someone would restock a factory box of Winchester with reloads (let alone sealed primer ones), particularly 9mms which are relatively cheap.
  
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  Fair enough.
  
  Again, I don't know the answer, though I'd imagine a quick call to Winchester customer service with the lot number (or maybe even without it) will probably give you a good answer.

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  golferboy426

  January 10, 2012 12:27

  This really isn't a white box, that would be the winchester USA. This is a typical Winchester Super x with the orange and red stripe with the rider in the top right corner.

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  fordsix

  January 10, 2012 15:16

  care and quality is out the window

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  Riomouse911

  January 10, 2012 15:23

  A lot of the "duty" style ammo has sealer, especially the LE/military calibers like 9mm or .45 acp. The primer sealer in a 9mm silvertip round would seem consistent with this premise. (The Weatherby ammo in my collection has a green sealer, if I'm not mistaken)
  
  However I do know that a .45 Colt silvertip in my collection is not sealed at the primer. In my plinking stash I think I have some brass-cased factory silvertip 9mm loose in a .50 cal ammo can (with a bunch of other 9mm rounds as well) The rounds are from that same era when Win had a red plastic cartridge tray with the foam insert and the orange/red striped box. If I get a chance tonight to root around in it I'll see if any of those are sealed.

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  cpermd

  January 10, 2012 16:49

  I have some
  
  NOT sealed
  
  CP

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  dcs shooters

  January 11, 2012 05:49

  They sealed the early silvertip primers. I have a box that is, and one that isn't.

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  Riomouse911

  January 11, 2012 06:09

  I found five silvertips in the can, all with brass cases. Three had a sealer, two did not. Since they're all mix and match remnants in the can and I have no idea when they were made, based on the above posting I guess the sealed ones are older.

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