Info needed on a Taurus 616 titanium .357
Looking for input on quality, reliability and also approximate value on one in very good to excelent condition.
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If it says Taurus on it, quality and reliability are hit and miss. Their customer service leaves lots o be desired, as does their turn around time. They might look like, and try to mimmick a S&W, but they are not a S&W.
From what I can find, the the 661 sounds to be a Titanium framed revolver, with fixed sights, and 6 shot.
My take from this
http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=5&f=26&t=89494
would be to steer clear.
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Taurus does put out guns that work fine, but in general it isn't known for good quality control. I've heard enough bad things about Taurus wheelguns, that I'd at least be cautious before buying one.
Would I buy this? Probably not, because I have no use for a really light 4" bbl medium framed .357. It could make a decent concealed carry or backpacking gun, I guess, for the right person, but I think for those applications, I'd just stick to an all steel Smith, which I can probably get cheaper than the Taurus.
You can read some first hand comments on this particular model here:
http://tinyurl.com/6rxm7zk
I don't have any personal experience with this particular gun, but I will add that in my opinion titanium is mostly a "gimmick" when it comes to guns. Even in the putative titanium guns, lots of the critical parts are still made of good old fashioned hardened steel.
Yes, titanium is stronger than *most* steels, but generally strength isn't the limiting factor in using it in guns, and the makers aren't making the frames and cylinders thinner on these models to compensate for the increased strength of the titanium. IE, the guns aren't really SMALLER, just LIGHTER.
Titanium is 1/3 lighter than steel, which presumably is the main point of using it in guns. . .but aluminum alloy is lighter yet, and adequate in strength for auto and some revolver gun frames. The big problems with titanium are that its really expensive to make parts out of it, and though it has higher tensile strength, its also more brittle than steel making it more prone to crack or chip.
So looking at the big picture, there are reasons why reduced weight guns are usually made with polymer or aluminum alloy frames instead of titanium. No, they're not as strong in some ways, but they're "good enough" at a far lower cost. Smith and Wesson toyed around with titanium for a while, but for these reasons ultimately decided there wasn't enough benefit from it to continue.0 -
Hello FRED shoot one before you BUY one the lighter the pistol the more felt recoil IN MY OPINION the recoil on this pistol is above the level that most shooters can tolerate and still hit a target. A MISS with 50 Caliber pistol is not as good as a HIT with a 22 rimfire. 0 -
I have the total titanium model 605 5-shot Taurus .357 magnum.
Functions fine, but does have a bit of recoil, and muzzle flash for that matter.
It's my EDC, and I really don't mind the extra recoil. I'm practiced with it, and know what to expect.
I did not choose the titanium for it's weight differential. I chose it because titanium won't rust. Everything else I carry tries to rust on me.
I work construction for a living, and I tend to sweat a bit. I tried stainless, which really isn't, and I'd tried all kinds of "treatments".
Total titanium seems to work best for me. Then again, I've always been a bit unconventional.0 -
Only gun that made my hand swell. 0 -
Thanks for the input guys. But, does anyone have any idea on value? I can't find any for sale to compare to.
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Value? About $250.00 on a good day used, or $350.00 New. Not very many folks are willing to shell out that kind of money, when for a tid bit more they can get a Ruger, and a little more a S&W.
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