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Winchester 94 post-64 copper color receiver?

my-handyman
I hope some one can inform me! In the last year or so I've seen 3 different Win 94's that have a copper color receiver? What kind of finish is this, is it factory, did these 94's have a special name or number? They all seem to have a lower price/value then a normal blue 94? So what was the purpose / use for these 94's?
Thanks for your time and any info you might have!!
Vern
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  • fordsix
    blue /adinizing gone you cant do nothing but paint them have you seen purple ones can;t blue them either
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  • Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by fordsix
    blue /adinizing gone you cant do nothing but paint them have you seen purple ones can;t blue them either

    Yep, that's why everyone wants pre-64's. Post 63's are just shooters.
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  • 317wc
    Post '64 receivers are cast, and don't take a refinish well at all. That brassish or purple color you see, is most times, an indicator of a refinish job. That is why they are lower priced when you see them. At that point the gun would have value only as a shooter.
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  • He Dog
    At ANY point post '63s have value only as shooters. But fun shooters.
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  • Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by 317wc
    Post '64 receivers are cast,

    That is not quite accurate. The receiver frames on the post-1963 production Model 94s were made with "sintered" steel. There is a big difference between "cast" and "sintered".

    Sintered steel does not turn copper or purple in color when it is refinished. Nickel steel will do that, especially when modern hot salt (tank) bluing is used t o refinish it.

    The "copper" color you see on a Post-1963 Model 94 receiver is caused by oxidation (rust).
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  • my-handyman
    Gentlmen! Thanks for the info and the time you spent posting it!!Learn something new every day and with this, you guys saved me some money!
    Thanks!
    Vern
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  • charliemeyer007
    +1 for nickel steel turning purple in the hot salts blueing tanks. IIRC fresh added salt and higher heat with longer time can make it more towards the black side.
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  • machine gun moran
    quote:Originally posted by charliemeyer007
    +1 for nickel steel turning purple in the hot salts blueing tanks. IIRC fresh added salt and higher heat with longer time can make it more towards the black side.


    +1 again.

    I worked in a high-volume repair shop back in the early '70's, which always had 250-300 repair guns waiting. We did blueing in large runs. High nickel-content receivers and components would tend to turn purple, which we solved by adjusting the temperature of the salt baths in precise increments every ten minutes, over a 30-minute period. No more pink small parts, Model 12 receivers or Ruger revolver frames.
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