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What rolling block pistol do I have?

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  • nmyers
    My first thought was that it was a Remington 1867 Navy RB, but the patent dates don't seem right. And, the target sights would be wrong for that model. And, it looks like the barrel is > 7" long. If I had a genuine Remington handy, I'd compare the fonts on the patent dates.

    It may just be a contemporary knock-off. With the markings worn off, we may never know for sure.

    Neal

    EDIT: The only Remington RB rifle I see that has a full pistol grip is the #7, & that has the rear sight on the barrel. But, r-s is right, you don't want to ship it without at least a C&R license. I think it's unlikely that you can get an ATF ruling without a readable manufacturer's name, or positive ID on it.

    EDIT 2: Well, based on the fact that the grip appears identical to the 1867 pistol, I wouldn't worry about the legality. But, with no finish & a replacement barrel & fore end, I would expect it to sell in $150-200 range as a wall hanger.
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  • rufe-snow
    From the location of the markings, on the left side of the frame. And the radiused frame, where the stock is attached. To my way of thinking, likely a Model 2 Sporting Rifle. That has been converted to a pistol.
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  • TRAP55
    Look under the forearm on the barrel for any markings.
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  • perry shooter
    Rifle converted to pistol . A number of years ago American Rifleman
    Had a series of DIY writeup on how to do this. in today's world I don't know what BATFE would say.
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  • AMR Arms
    quote:Originally posted by TRAP55
    Look under the forearm on the barrel for any markings.


    Nothing under the forearm.
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  • AMR Arms
    quote:Originally posted by perry shooter
    Rifle converted to pistol . A number of years ago American Rifleman
    Had a series of DIY writeup on how to do this. in today's world I don't know what BATFE would say.


    Interesting. Any idea as to what it's now worth?
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by TRAP55
    Look under the forearm on the barrel for any markings.



    Questionable if the barrel is original? All I have found photos of on the net, had octagon barrels. Like this one.





    Remington%20No.2%20Rifle%20010.jpg
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  • charliemeyer007
    It looks like a conversion to me. If the bore is good I'd consider getting some of the 32 rimfire reloadable shells and shoot it. My story would be it was a factory prototype for an indoor gallery pistol.
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by AMR Arms
    quote:Originally posted by perry shooter
    Rifle converted to pistol . A number of years ago American Rifleman
    Had a series of DIY writeup on how to do this. in today's world I don't know what BATFE would say.


    Interesting. Any idea as to what it's now worth?



    According to "Flayderman's Guide". They were made as late as 1910. Which would take them out of the antique category. Because of this, if I were you. Would attempt to get some sort of legal clarification, from the JBT's. Regarding it's possession/sale.

    You being in the gun business. If they wanted to be pricks about it. They could cause you a lot of grief, over something like this. That isn't a big buck collectors piece, in the first place. You would be winding up behind the 8 ball, for something worth chump change.
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  • Hawk Carse
    Looks like a conversion of an 1867 Navy.
    Maybe the Remington trademark is just worn off, the patent dates are fading fast.

    If it is a cut down rifle, then you have possible interference from the BATF.
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  • AMR Arms
    I see what you mean. I've contacted Remington to see what they can come up with. Hopefully it'll be good news from them.
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  • gruntled
    quote:Originally posted by perry shooter
    Rifle converted to pistol . A number of years ago American Rifleman
    Had a series of DIY writeup on how to do this. in today's world I don't know what BATFE would say.


    The BATFards didn't take too kindly to it then. They had to print a story later that advised people not to do it as it was illegal.
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  • hrf
    The octagon top of frame and no hump in top strap confirms it's a model 2 rifle action.
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  • AMR Arms
    quote:Originally posted by hrf
    The octagon top of frame and no hump in top strap confirms it's a model 2 rifle action.


    Waiting to hear back from Remington. It would be nice to hear that they sold it as a frame and not a rifle.
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