Model 1842 Musket maybe!
Well, just picked up a neat musket (always wanted one). I was told it was used by a Minnesota soldier in the Civil War. It was Belgium made (sent to Switzerland) and converted (1842) for use during the Civil War...anyway - just going through the first phase of ID'ng the markings and need a little help.
Now, I did find a "A Swiss Model 1842 Percussion Infantry Musket" that had the "Crown over BF" and "V inside of a Circle" markings AND M6328M on its butt while my new puppy has M5xxxM on the butt. That rifle was sold at auction in 2006.
I uploaded a few pictures to help out.
1. Their are Belgian Gun Maker markings (Crown over BF) all over the rifle...
2. Their are the standard Belgian (E over LG star) Proof House Markings...
3. Their are a few "V inside of a Circle" - no clue...
4. Haven't a clue what the "CGP" - no clue...
5. Haven't a clue what the "1091" markings is (maybe a serial number?) - no clue...
6. Haven't a clue on the "shield" markings - no clue...
7. Haven't a clue on the "895" stamped on both the metal and wood...
8. Upside down "shield" - no clue...
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
UPDATE: I just loaded up a page with much better pictures, etc. on: http://vpnavy01.com/websites/civilwar/
Now, I did find a "A Swiss Model 1842 Percussion Infantry Musket" that had the "Crown over BF" and "V inside of a Circle" markings AND M6328M on its butt while my new puppy has M5xxxM on the butt. That rifle was sold at auction in 2006.
I uploaded a few pictures to help out.
1. Their are Belgian Gun Maker markings (Crown over BF) all over the rifle...
2. Their are the standard Belgian (E over LG star) Proof House Markings...
3. Their are a few "V inside of a Circle" - no clue...
4. Haven't a clue what the "CGP" - no clue...
5. Haven't a clue what the "1091" markings is (maybe a serial number?) - no clue...
6. Haven't a clue on the "shield" markings - no clue...
7. Haven't a clue on the "895" stamped on both the metal and wood...
8. Upside down "shield" - no clue...
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
UPDATE: I just loaded up a page with much better pictures, etc. on: http://vpnavy01.com/websites/civilwar/
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Problem with the converted muskets. Was not only were they imported in great quantity, during the early years of the Civil War. But they were also sold as late as the 20th Century. By surplus arms dealers, such as Bannerman and Adolf Frank. In fact I was looking in Frank's 1911 catalog. He has Muskets for sale similar to yours, that he identifies as French.
Unless you can trace the ownership back to the U.S. Civil War soldier positively. All you have is a 19th Century converted flintlock. It being Swiss is a plus IMHO, if you can prove it. As I wasn't aware of any Swiss arms used by the Union.0 -
Interesting - thanks rufe-snow for the information. 0 -
Swiss examples, in case you haven't seen:
http://www.littlegun.info/arme suisse/arme ordonnance/a fusil infanterie 1842 gb.htm0 -
Outstanding hrf! The first one looks exactly like mine (I compared their pictures with my puppy). While I have a different number (8179 - vs 895) most proofs are in the same (area) but I have a few more as well. Anyway - it is more then I had a few minutes ago.
Thanks again...0 -
If anyone has a bayonet that would fit on http://vpnavy01.com/websites/civilwar/ I would be very interested. 0 -
No longer need a Bayonet - found one at a local Antique outlet. 0
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