luger ser# and bulldog ffl question
hi there, I have a manufacturing license to reweld aks so don't deal outside of my area much but came across a bringback luger that is mismatched.
totally rough piece but anyway..
wondering what part I go off for the serial number to sell it.
assuming the slide?
also a super old h & r bulldog I don't see any numbers on it.
haven't pulled the grips. 32 rimfire im guessing?
does this even need an ffl for transfer?
thank you
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totally rough piece but anyway..
wondering what part I go off for the serial number to sell it.
assuming the slide?
also a super old h & r bulldog I don't see any numbers on it.
haven't pulled the grips. 32 rimfire im guessing?
does this even need an ffl for transfer?
thank you
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The legal serial number, as far as the feds are concerned. Is the one on the frame. Not the barrel, or anywhere else. As shown in this photo. The lower case letter. Is also part of the serial number, on German military Lugers. 
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Pistols did not HAVE to HAVE a serial before 1934 gun Control Act
long guns 19680 -
Are you sure of that Bulldog being a H&R????
Most were made by I. Johnson just before 1900.
If you post pics of both sides of it I can tell you what year and who made it. Some because they are later than 1899, need to go as a C&R gun, Older ones need no paper work as an antique.0 -
thanks for the replies fellas.
I appreciate the info, hate to commit any felonies
pretty sure it says h&r
ill grab a couple shots of it.0 -
quote:Originally posted by babun
Are you sure of that Bulldog being a H&R????
Most were made by I. Johnson just before 1900.
If you post pics of both sides of it I can tell you what year and who made it. Some because they are later than 1899, need to go as a C&R gun, Older ones need no paper work as an antique.
from the late Bill Goforth, author of IJ book]
HARRINGTON & RICHARDSON ARMS CO.
TIME LINE FOR AMERICAN DOUBLE ACTION SERIES OF REVOLVERS
1880---MODEL 1880 DOUBLE ACTION 2 ? inch Round barrel (one frame size) 32 6-rds. & 38 5-rds.
(not considered a Bull Dog type revolver)
1883---FIRST MODEL FIRST VARIATION INTRODUCED- (2 ? "ROUND BARREL BLACK POWDER)
(32cf. 6-rds, 38cf. 5-rds, 44 Webley 5-rds, the 44 caliber frame is slightly larger )
1884---FIRST MODEL SECOND VARIATION LONGER OCTAGON BARRELS (4 & 6 INCHES)
1885---FIRST MODEL THIRD VARIATION ALL BARREL LENGTHS ARE OCTAGON
1887---BULLDOG MODEL INTRODUCED (RIMFIRE CALIBERS)
1887---SAFETY HAMMER MODEL INTRODUCED (SPURLESS HAMMER)
1905---SECOND MODEL INTRODUCED SMOKELESS POWDER
SECOND MODEL BULL DOG INTRODUCED SMOKELESS POWDER
SECOND MODEL SAFETY HAMMER INTRODUCED SMOKELESS POWDER
1915---VICTOR VARIANT INTRODUCED (three frame sizes in 22rf, 32cf & 38cf)
1920---44 CALIBER DISCONTINUED
1923---BULLDOG MODEL (Rimfire Calibers) DISCONTINUED0 -
thanks for the hrf I geuss it was between 83 and 23
it actually says hr arms company Worcester mass. usa on the left of the barrel (wich I failed to get a pic of)
its pretty rough...0 -
And those with the address on barrel were made after 1904, so C&R 0 -
nice, thank you sir! 0
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