Jungle Carbine value

Ox190

April 16, 2014 15:39

I have a ROF No.5 Mk1 in excellent condition, all parts have matching serial numbers and it looks to be shot very little. Curious as to what the value might be.

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  Ox190

  April 16, 2014 17:44

  Sorry about that Spider, I was obviously not paying attention.

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  charliemeyer007

  April 16, 2014 17:51

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungle_Carbine
  
  3 to watch and you could do the advanced search for actual selling prices.
  http://www.GunBroker.com/Firearms/BI.aspx?Keywords=enfield+no+5+mk1+

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  rufe-snow

  April 16, 2014 19:19

  Golden State Arms, in Pasadena California. Made up a bunch of replica "Jungle Carbines", in the mid 50's, early 60's time frame. They were sold as Santa Fe Jungle Carbines. Here is a photo of one.
  
  
  Being it's a replica, rather than the real McCoy. No collectors value to speak of.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

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  Ox190

  April 16, 2014 20:43

  99% sure this is a legit jungle carbine, hollowed out bolt handle and 800 meter sights.

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  redman.com1

  April 16, 2014 22:54

  if its the real deal, which I believe it is, seeing that it is stamped no.5. last one I sold in good shape went around the 425-450 buck mark. they made a no.5, no.7, the crappy santa fe copy (one of which I recently sold for $250) and the gibbs co. made one called a quest II. no. 5 being the only real jungle carbine.

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  heavyiron

  April 17, 2014 05:37

  Am I missing something?
  
  Where are the photos of this rifle?
  
  Best,
  
  Heavyiron

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  Ox190

  April 17, 2014 14:41

  
  
  

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  heavyiron

  April 18, 2014 10:19

  Hi Ox,
  
  It is a very nice looking Mark 5 you have there.
  
  The photos were not great so there is only limited information that can be determined about your rifle.
  
  It does appear to be a genuine Mark 5. The lightening cuts are difficult to see but they are visible on the receiver in the first photo.
  
  You have a Royal Ordinance Factory rifle from Fazakerley near Liverpool. It is a latter production rifle evidenced by the metal end cap on the fore end. There were three different configurations of the fore end the shorter squared-off metal cap being the last. The rifles serial should be stamped on the metal end cap.
  
  All Mark 5 rifles originally started as Enfield Mark 4 rifles. The Mark 4s were subjected to lightening cuts on the receiver, bolt, and shoulder of the barrel where it joins the receiver. The British managed to shed about 2 pounds of metal with the cuts to lighten the rifle for work in the tropics.
  
  The rifle has a micrometer graduated rear sight which was not visible in the photos. The graduated rear sight is for 800 meters but there is also a 300 meter battle sight for primary use when the micrometer sight is folded down.
  
  The metal of the Mark 5 was finished with an oil blacking process similar to parkerizing. The wood finish was a traditional linseed oil finish. The photos look like the someone has refinished the stock. The linseed oil used gives the stock a much duller in appearance.
  
  
  
  There is no statement about bore condition or rubber recoil pad condition. Bores on these rifles are generally horrible being dark and filthy dirty. I have two original Mark 5s. One is a Fazakerly and one is a Shirley. I thought both bores were shot, pun intended. However, after a week of cleaning and soaking the bores brightened up considerably and what looked like worn rifling was strong. We don't know what condition the bore of your rifle is like. The rubber recoil pads are nearing the end of their life and are usually found cracked and degraded.
  
  Without more information I don't think anyone can say what your rifle is worth. Bore condition, rubber recoil pad, and original finish all count is assessing value. The rifle might be worth $250 to $500 depending upon those factors. You do have a genuine Mark 5 so congratulations - they are great rifles.

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  Ox190

  April 18, 2014 11:09

  Thanks for the info, the recoil pad is in excellent condition, I don't have the ability to take a photo of the bore but it looks nice and shiny. This gun looks to be shot very very little.

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