Knife Need estimated value and DOM Please
Hello This might take a few minutes to download the three Pictures so sand by. I have just found a Knife in an estate I am selling for the widow of a long time friend I looked on line but did not see this model pictured. could someone give me an Idea of Value in this condition
And possible Time frame when it could have been made. I suspect
This is a Throwing Knife is this correct [?] Thanks Perry Shooter
And possible Time frame when it could have been made. I suspect
This is a Throwing Knife is this correct [?] Thanks Perry Shooter
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Blackjack mini broadhead throwing knife.
This one sold for $13.50:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Blackjack-Mini-Broadhead-Sport-Throwing-Knife-Effingham-IL-/3010910018300 -
Thanks Spider So I guess this is just the Black Jack model Mine is one and one half Size of the mini Shown that is 8 inches long 0 -
quote:Originally posted by perry shooter
Thanks Spider So I guess this is just the Black Jack model Mine is one and one half Size of the mini Shown that is 8 inches long
Yeah, I missed the size. I guess it's a maxi broadhead throwing knife. [;)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by perry shooter
Hello This might take a few minutes to download the three Pictures so sand by. I have just found a Knife in an estate I am selling for the widow of a long time friend I looked on line but did not see this model pictured. could someone give me an Idea of Value in this condition
And possible Time frame when it could have been made. I suspect
This is a Throwing Knife is this correct [?] Thanks Perry Shooter
Definitely a throwing knife, and I think you got a good answer already.
On valuation, an American made throwing knife like this one is worth more than the usual Chinese/Pakistani cheapies, and this particular one is apparently from a known manufacturer with good quality.
Unfortunately, yours has no box, sheath, cord, and some superficial pitting. I'd say $20-30 is a reasonable place to start valuation.
For comparison, this guy is asking $120 for what appears to be the same knife, with sheath and cord. Even in better condition, I think that's still a bit nuts:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Effingham-BLACKJACK-Broad-Head-Throwing-Knife-/260785916643
This auction looks like basically the same thing, and closed at $50, again with original box. The description here probably tells you everything you'd need to know about the knife.
quote:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Blackjack-Model-Broadhead-Throwing-Knife-Effingham-Vintage-Discontinued-NEW-/261390322858?pt=Collectible_Knives&hash=item3cdc13ccaa
As with all original Blackjack designs it was vintage produced and discontinued because Blackjack Knives closed. Because vintage produced, it's hard to find one that's new rather than used. Produced in Effingham, IL by Blackjack means it is quality and craftsmanship all the way. Blackjack designed the Broadhead with both the professional and novice in mind.
As a bonus, we're including with the knife a copy of the 1995 Consumer Catalog from Blackjack Knives, LTD that shows the full line of each division: Blackjack Knives, Classic Blades, Ek Commando Knives, Cripple Creek folders, Becker Knife and Tool, H.G. Long Company and Hoffman Design. The catalog alone is highly sought after and along with the Broadhead are both worthy of a place in your collection. Don't miss this!
Blackjack produced two styles of this knife: the Broadhead and the Mini-Broadhead, the difference being in the size. The Broadhead is the larger of the two with a 7" blade made of 1075 high carbon steel. Typical of throwing knives it is not sharpened on the edges but comes to a point at the end. It comes with a leather sheath for storage.
From the Blackjack Catalog:
"The Broadhead and Mini-Broadhead were designed in Blackjack's own profile for the professional or the novice. Both blades boast a symmetrical design perfect for balance and ease of throwing. The strength of each tenacious carbon steel blade is sufficient to withstand high impacts, so you can throw without worrying the blade may break."0 -
As a 12 year old boy in 1949 I saw and ad in Boys Life magazine for a very similar throwing knife. It was described as a "Malayan Throwing Dagger". I recall very well that the price was $2.00 and it could be ordered from a place in Alhambra, California. My parents could not convince me that it was a rip-off so I ordered one. It was evident in the ad that it had a leather handle and sharpened blade. It would be very useful to a Boy Scout even if it did not throw well. One of my life's greatest disappointments, up to that point, was seeing the knife when I unwrapped it. The leather handle was a leather strip wrapped around the handle of the sheet metal knife. The edge of the blade was not sharp at all but it did have a fairly blunt sharpened tip on the blade. As I look back it was a cheap lesson to learn of the hazard of ordering by mail, a lesson I remember well from 60+ years ago. 0 -
Thanks Guys Had never seen one before and knew condition was fair to good at best . Actually glad it is not worth what my ivory grip Randall 8inch #2 is . This one I can try to teach this 71 year old man how to throw. I never been able to do that without breaking or bending any knife I had as a Kid, so I learned to shoot a 1911 instead. [:p] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by perry shooter
Thanks Guys Had never seen one before and knew condition was fair to good at best . Actually glad it is not worth what my ivory grip Randall 8inch #2 is . This one I can try to teach this 71 year old man how to throw. I never been able to do that without breaking or bending any knife I had as a Kid, so I learned to shoot a 1911 instead. [:p]
Is there a male kid who does NOT go through this phase? [}:)][;)]
I'd say there are reasons why knife throwers use specially designed knives like the one above. Most ordinary knives aren't balanced well enough for throwing, and are made of steel designed to hold an edge, not impact a target repeatedly. The blade and edge shapes of ordinary knives are also usually intended for cutting/piercing, not to stick into targets and be easily removed like throwing knives. The stress of throwing will also destroy EVERY normal folding knife.
In my opinion, knife throwing is mostly a "party stunt". Its fun to do, and it makes fantastic theater. But as an actual fighting or hunting skill? Meh. . .its next to useless.
Its actually against the law in most jurisdictions to carry any fixed blade knife large enough for throwing. . .even in places where concealed carry of pistols is permitted. As a matter of practice, most people aren't going to go about their daily business carrying a set of 3-7 sheathed throwing knives. Even if legal, it just looks totally "cuckoo", not a place you want to be after you've been in a fight, or if you're detained for some other reason.
If you're only going to carry one knife, the one you probably want to carry is going to be some sort of tool knife, or perhaps a dedicated tactical folding knife, not one optimized for throwing.
Assuming you do have only one knife, probably the LAST thing you're going to want to do is throw it away in a fight. What if you miss (or even hit, but miss a vital area)? Now you're unarmed but the person you threw the knife at is potentially armed with your knife!
Also, as a matter of practice, most (but not all) conventional knife throwing styles are aimed at fixed targets at specific distances. You really can't assume either thing is true in the real world.
With a handgun, if your range estimation is off by a few feet, well, it won't really change your point of impact nor even group size significantly. But with a throwing knife, a difference of even 2-3 feet can mean the difference between a point-in "hit" and a point sideways "miss". IE are you really going to wait until your opponent is standing exactly 25. . .but not 22 nor 28 feet from you?
Yes, there are "point forward" throwing styles where the knife isn't rotated more than half a turn and the throwing distance becomes less important (though still not UNIMPORTANT). . .but these are technically difficult.
Bottom line, throwing knifes may be cheaper than shooting 1911s, but its quite a bit less versatile!
Even Machete knows that for some occasions, throwing knives aren't good enough. . .0
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